Did Adam/Eve procreate with their own children or...

(disclaimer: I don't believe in the stories from the bible)
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Adam and EVE were the only people god created. Their kids obviously got together with others that had been created.
 
that was my understanding.
I figured adam only had kids with eve, but their kids bred
 
they wouldve gotten that one disease... (the one where if you get cut you bleed to death even if its minor) ;)
 
What about after the flooding then?
 
Then it gets even worse. Killing all but Noah and his family...

Thus, I don't believe in the bible.
 
maybe outside the Eden were modern people who Adam and Eve saw dressed and so they made clothes for themself and when they got kicked out they procreated with modern people
 
There are two separate problems: where do the wicked people come from, and where does Noah's line come from?

On the first question, there are three theories:
1) Cain had children with Eve, a sinful act which produced unclean offspring.
2) Cain had children with Adam's first wife Lilith, which was even worse because she was already demonic.
3) Cain committed bestiality in the wilderness and sired a race of monsters, which later mixed with the half-angels to produce the doubly monstrous and gigantic Nephilim.

The third was that favoured by St. Augustine.

I think the descent of the good folks on the ark is easier to establish: Seth, the good son, mated with one of his unnamed sisters (of the "other sons and daughters of Gen 5:4).
 
Lilith isn't mentioned in the Bible, she's part of the extracanonical Jewish folk tradition. The story is that she was the first woman that God made for Adam, but that she wouldn't act properly (i.e. she preferred to be "on top", if you know what I mean), and for this Adam kicked her out of Eden. God created Eve, and the Genesis story progresses as normal. But now, the thinking goes, Lilith is out in the wilderness somewhere, and when Cain is banished from his parents, he manages to meet up with her and gets to procreatin'.
 
Mathilda said:
(disclaimer: I don't believe in the stories from the bible)
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Adam and EVE were the only people god created. Their kids obviously got together with others that had been created.
That's not obvious at all. What is obvious, is that incest was not outlawed by God, until the time of Moses. Cain and Seth married their sisters, and there was nothing wrong with that at the time.

Also, if other people besides Adam and Eve had been created, they would be part of "the living", no? But the Bible says "all the living" are descended from Eve.

Genesis 3:20
Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.
 
Cain and Seth married their sisters, and there was nothing wrong with that at the time.
Seth, yes; Cain did not. Adam and Eve did not have daughters until Cain had been banished from their society. (See above for the explanations of Cain's having sired children.)
 
nonconformist said:
Didn't that guy who escaped form Soddom also commit incest?
Lot's daughters got him drunk and slept with him, yes. I think brother-sister incest was acceptable before Moses, but the parent-child variety was not-- Ham seeing his father naked, for example, was sinful.
 
Taliesin said:
Seth, yes; Cain did not. Adam and Eve did not have daughters until Cain had been banished from their society.

How do you know? The Bible is mostly silent on that issue, except for these verses:

Genesis 5:4
After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters.

Genesis 4:17
Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.

Who is to say that Cain did not take a sister and mate with her? You can't rule that out. However, it does say "Cain lay with his wife", not "his mother".

Taliesin said:
There are two separate problems: where do the wicked people come from,
All wicked people are descended from Adam.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned—
 
Lol, actually me and my brother had a discussion about it, turns out their children would turn out ********...:p
 
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