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Diplomacy

Discussion in 'The Council' started by cubsfan6506, Aug 20, 2007.

  1. peter grimes

    peter grimes ... Retired Moderator

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    The last game I played, the GM (who was parsing the moves manually), told us the format to use, which was what I used in my example... If orders weren't presented in his preferred format, they were ignored. That was a really simple way to eliminate ambiguity. It also led to some unexpected holds :D

    I think something like that could work well for us, as well. Pick a format, and we all use it. But it's really up to Cubsfan, I'll be happy to submit orders in any format he wants.
     
  2. Niklas

    Niklas Fully Functional GOTM Staff

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    This is exactly what I don't like. Being good at this game should be a strategic and diplomatic issue, not a syntactic. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be caught dead using the wrong syntax if there was one, so I'm not arguing my own case, but I hate it when a unit is unexpectedly held. It messes up everyone's plans.
     
  3. Paul#42

    Paul#42 flyball chaser

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    I plan and play my moves in jDip - the moves are recorded on the right column and can be copied and pasted into the mail.
    If cubsfan posts a save after every turn, we all should have the correct initial situation for our moves.

    That should work, right?
     
  4. peter grimes

    peter grimes ... Retired Moderator

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    That's precisely my point (which I think you were making for me :)). It's quite a simple matter to follow the instructions of the Moderator. If you can't follow the instructions for the syntax, then chances are you aren't very careful in other arenas ;)

    The only player who had problems was young, possibly in high school (or younger), and he also frequently failed to submit orders on time. It was indeed very frustrating. It's really not too much to ask to email orders, using a certain syntax, by a deadline. He was eliminated pretty quickly.

    I'll conform to whichever system is required of me. Truthfully, I'm just glad to be playing this again - it's been over a year, and I had a blast last time :clap:
     
  5. peter grimes

    peter grimes ... Retired Moderator

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    A quick reminder to all the European players: Orders are due by 5pm, US Central Time, which is just over 2 hours from the time of this post.
     
  6. Paul#42

    Paul#42 flyball chaser

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    Hey, hey. No need to hustle. :D

    Man, I'm excited :bounce:

    Finally one more thing to wait for in this forum apart from posts from Wotan in the turntracker... :lol:
     
  7. peter grimes

    peter grimes ... Retired Moderator

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    Thanks for the correction: 6pm central time is 7pm my time, which is just enough to confuse the dickens out of me :lol:
     
  8. dl123654

    dl123654 King

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    English orders have been sent by email
     
  9. cubsfan6506

    cubsfan6506 Got u

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    I still need order's from Paul.
     
  10. cubsfan6506

    cubsfan6506 Got u

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    I will give a two hours longer for turn 1.
     
  11. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

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    Back in the day (before computer adjudicators) intentionally mis-writing orders was an accepted tactic. :D

    Guess I'll look into jDip so I can write my orders there.
     
  12. Niklas

    Niklas Fully Functional GOTM Staff

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    :hmm: Isn't it already two hours left (by your post that is, 1.20 from mine)? CST is GMT-6 right?
     
  13. cubsfan6506

    cubsfan6506 Got u

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    yeah but I'm afraid some of the euro's are asleep.
     
  14. Paul#42

    Paul#42 flyball chaser

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    Just sent my moves on last minute. :)

    With half an hour to go, my computer became incredibly slow. Did anybody else experience excessive resource allocation when using JDip? :confused:

    I had to restart and was running out of time... :shifty:
    I hope, it was in time. Sorry for causing trouble. Next time I won't use the timeframe to the last minute...

    Did we make a calculation mistake? It should be 6pm US central time now, right? :hmm:
     
  15. cubsfan6506

    cubsfan6506 Got u

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    Yup. I was just about to enter without you to.



    General Notices:


    No retreating units; retreat phase skipped.Order resolution
    completed on 24-Aug-2007 at 18:04:15 CDT


    Order Results:


    Austria:


    Austria: A bud -> serAustria: F tri -> albAustria: A vie
    -> bud



    England:


    England: F edi -> nthEngland: A lvp -> yorEngland: F
    lon -> eng


    Bounced with bre (1 against 1).




    France:


    France: F bre -> eng


    Bounced with lon (1 against 1).

    France: A mar -> spaFrance: A par -> pic



    Germany:


    Germany: A ber -> kieGermany: F kie -> holGermany: A mun
    -> ruh



    Italy:


    Italy: F nap -> ionItaly: A rom -> ven


    Bounced with ven (1 against 1).

    Italy: A ven -> rom


    Bounced with rom (1 against 1).




    Russia:


    Russia: A mos -> sevRussia: F sev -> rumRussia: F stp/sc
    -> botRussia: A war -> ukr



    Turkey:


    Turkey: F ank -> blaTurkey: A con -> bulTurkey: A smy ->
    arm
    Also I prefer everything spelled out.

    http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/101788/Diplo.rar
    Next orders due sunday at 6 I won't be here but I still can see when you send emails.
     
  16. donsig

    donsig Low level intermediary

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    Yikes, did I really order A Ven-Rom? :hammer2:
     
  17. cubsfan6506

    cubsfan6506 Got u

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    Yeah ya did. I was thinking about post messaging you but that would be rather unfair.
     
  18. peter grimes

    peter grimes ... Retired Moderator

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    Sorry to ask a possibly annoying question, but I'm having trouble understanding the posted moves.

    For example: "France: F bre -> eng"

    what does this mean?

    Likewise: "Germany: A ber -> kieGermany: F kie -> holGermany: A mun
    -> ruh"

    I'm sorry to be a bother, but I don't understand that parsing language. Could someone point me towards an explanation?

    Thanks :)
     
  19. sirdanilot

    sirdanilot BBcode owns in sigs!

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    Uhm, that's indeed very weird and hard to understand.

    France: F bre -> eng
    I guess you could remove the '>' part. So then it would be:
    France: F bre - eng
    Or:
    France: Fleet Brest - English Channel

    But it's very usual to abbreviate it to the second I posted. Nobody wants to write a lot of orders out in full like that, it's very tedious :crazyeye:

    I don't understand the program included '>' though.
     
  20. Niklas

    Niklas Fully Functional GOTM Staff

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    > is html-speak for "greater than". cubsfan, isn't it possible for you to go through and edit those posted orders, changing all > to > and adding the proper linebreaks?

    Germany: A ber -> kieGermany: F kie -> holGermany: A mun
    -> ruh

    means

    Germany: A ber -> kie
    Germany: F kie -> hol
    Germany: A mun -> ruh
     

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