Direct tv letting go ad

[civvver]

What do you think of this ad?

I have my own thoughts but was wondering your initial reactions to see if we're all picking up on the same things. I would watch it before reading the comments section.

My thoughts:

Spoiler :

When I first saw this ad I was like catchy music but really dumb trope about women throwing a cheating man's stuff out the window. Then I saw it a ton more times as it plays constantly during the nba playoffs and it actually started to wear on me as more and more annoying. I started thinking as a man I feel kind of put down by this, like the ad was implying he did something really terrible to deserve all his items being thrown at him out a window, and it kind of implies men deserve this treatment and women don't need us in relationships since the whole thing is about letting go of stuff. But then I thought I might be reading too much into it, so I looked online. And of course, I'm not the only one who felt turned off by it.

I hadn't really considered the domestic violence angel, just more that it seemed anti men. But of course people were saying it advocates domestic violence, which I agree it does. And it seems incredibly hypocritical, where if the roles were reversed we'd probably see a media outrage about men treating women this way.

I don't really think there's a racial angle here. Sure it's a black woman throwing stuff at a white man, but if anything I think that shows diversity in an interracial relationship. My guess however is they didn't want to show a minority being mistreated and thus made the guy white and I'm sure there would be some backlash if it had been a white person doing this to a black person, but again I think that would be misplaced.

To me it's all about the violence and mistreatment of men in relationships being diminished since it happens less frequently and men are usually stronger physically and thus able to "take it" for lack of a better phrase. But we shouldn't condone such things.

I'm going to die on this hill and I don't have direct tv to begin with, so I'm not sure if my stance is strong enough to cancel their service if I had it. But I do find the ad distasteful.

 

[Hrothbern]

My first reaction:
Cheap way to get attention

reading your spoiler:

Spoiler :

Disgusting indeed
Also:
There was some months ago a report about domestic violence in the Netherlands showing IIRC that 40% of the domestic violence victims (200,000 cases per year) were male.
My reaction: Is that really so ? First wait and see if we get another report.

But I can imagine that it happens a lot more than spoken of.
I guess also because of culture and taboos.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I get pretty annoyed whenever a woman strikes a man in the shows and movies.

Tangentially related (at best) - I also hate how prison rape and beatings are glorified in this country.

But I don't really see this ad as domestic violence.

 

[Lexicus]

I'm pretty sure destroying all of someone's stuff like this would be some kind of tort
I think the man in the commercial will be okay

 

[Silurian]

How do we know that the man was cheating.

Now TV "the sorry but not sorry thing"

maybe she was cheating and did not like being found out.

 

[Bamspeedy]

There was some months ago a report about domestic violence in the Netherlands showing IIRC that 40% of the domestic violence victims (200,000 cases per year) were male.

The thing about the domestic violence stat is the variance in severity of each individual case. A punch is not the same as a slap. Having bruises from a beating is not the same as something thrown at you (and it misses), but both are domestic violence.
She threw things at him in an attempt to cause harm, I'd say that is domestic violence, but I will not pity him as much as someone who got physically harmed. Smashing things might not sound like domestic violence (you're hurting an inanimate object), but when it's used to intimidate or threaten a person then it most certainly is considered domestic violence.
Not to say there are not women who put the smack-down on men (there are plenty of those types of videos on google and youtube), but generally speaking men can do more physical harm to women.

 

[warpus]

In real life this guy could take her to small claims court and get all his damaged stuff back, assuming she has a job and isn't a deadbeat with no money. She could also be engaged in an illegal eviction. It's all on video too! Why does she have a drone recording all this anyway? Dumbest criminal ever

Not to say there are not women who put the smack-down on men (there are plenty of those types of videos on google and youtube), but generally speaking men can do more physical harm to women.

I don't think it's helpful to downplay cases of domestic violence "because other people out there are able to do even more damage"

Having said that, yeah, generally and stereotypically you are right

 

[Narz]

I also dislike this type of violent female meme. Tee-hee, lack of self-control is cute. It's not cute, it's insulting to women, encouraging bad behavior. Also, the man is a dope who just takes it. Restrain that b**** or call the police.

 

[Hrothbern]

The thing about the domestic violence stat is the variance in severity of each individual case. A punch is not the same as a slap. Having bruises from a beating is not the same as something thrown at you (and it misses), but both are domestic violence.
She threw things at him in an attempt to cause harm, I'd say that is domestic violence, but I will not pity him as much as someone who got physically harmed. Smashing things might not sound like domestic violence (you're hurting an inanimate object), but when it's used to intimidate or threaten a person then it most certainly is considered domestic violence.
Not to say there are not women who put the smack-down on men (there are plenty of those types of videos on google and youtube), but generally speaking men can do more physical harm to women.

Agree
For reports categories are needed to understand what is said.
And the numbers were presented without rough definitions by the press as well.
Leaving for everybody open how to interpretate it.
Not good as such, but investigating domestic violence from all sides is important I think.
Much is happening there and even if the children are no direct victim, they are scarred when their parents do.
Also with lesser grade violence.
This add lowering the treshold for acceptance for adults.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

I'm reminded of the Archie comics, in which some characters have a habit of throwing other characters physically out of the house, destroying their property (ie. smashing Archie's guitar out of annoyance), or even the high school principal physically beating Archie if Archie messes things up too badly. It's played for laughs, and there are never any consequences even if Archie (or Jughead or Reggie) end up in the hospital.

This is something I didn't really notice much as a kid, but did notice later.

The ad gives me an "Archie annoyed Veronica, so Veronica wrecked his stuff so she could do her own thing and didn't give a damn about what Archie wanted" vibe.

And yes, the whole domestic violence and destruction of property is completely inappropriate for advertising a product. Not that it's appropriate anywhere. I used to hide under the desk in my bedroom when my mother started screaming at my dad and throwing the dishes around the kitchen (nearly everything was breakable in those days). At that point I didn't want to remind her I was still in the house.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Effective ad. Plays to the "feeling powerless" relationship people have with their cable company in numerous ways. While many of those ways, as pointed out, are offensive upon analysis, the majority of potential customers will not do that analysis and will subconsciously accept that throwing out their cheating, privileged, oblivious cable company is a way to "claim their power."

 

[warpus]

And yes, the whole domestic violence and destruction of property is completely inappropriate for advertising a product. Not that it's appropriate anywhere. I used to hide under the desk in my bedroom when my mother started screaming at my dad and throwing the dishes around the kitchen (nearly everything was breakable in those days). At that point I didn't want to remind her I was still in the house.

It's inappropriate, but unfortunately in the current climate a lot of people will overlook the inappropriateness because.. well, who knows why. Similar to how a lot of people will joke about rape and nobody will think it's inappropriate, just because it's happening to a male inmate.

It's this sort of thing that really shows you what some people are really like inside. They usually keep that unsavoury inside hidden from view, but inappropriate yet socially accepted things like this will bring them out to the forefront, showing us their true colours

 

[Valka D'Ur]

It's inappropriate, but unfortunately in the current climate a lot of people will overlook the inappropriateness because.. well, who knows why. Similar to how a lot of people will joke about rape and nobody will think it's inappropriate, just because it's happening to a male inmate.

I have to admit that while I wouldn't think it funny, I also wouldn't shed any tears if it happened to Paul Bernardo. His case is the first time I've ever regretted that Canada has no death penalty.

If that makes me a bad person, so be it. For some reason, I tend to have zero compassion for POSs who are serial rapists and kill some of their young teenage victims and dismember the bodies... and then go out for Thanksgiving dinner afterward, as though nothing happened.

 

[warpus]

I have to admit that while I wouldn't think it funny, I also wouldn't shed any tears if it happened to Paul Bernardo. His case is the first time I've ever regretted that Canada has no death penalty.

If that makes me a bad person, so be it. For some reason, I tend to have zero compassion for POSs who are serial rapists and kill some of their young teenage victims and dismember the bodies... and then go out for Thanksgiving dinner afterward, as though nothing happened.

Maybe I'm full of crap but I would be against rape even if it happened to someone I don't like. Mind you that's easy to say, if someone went back in time and raped Hitler I... .. .. wouldn't know what to say

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Maybe I'm full of crap but I would be against rape even if it happened to someone I don't like. Mind you that's easy to say, if someone went back in time and raped Hitler I... .. .. wouldn't know what to say

I'm not talking about male inmates in general; this is about one specific inmate. I'm not saying it should happen to him. I'm saying it wouldn't bother me if it did, given the nature of the crimes that put him there, and the ages of his last victims.

 

[warpus]

I'm not talking about male inmates in general; this is about one specific inmate. I'm not saying it should happen to him. I'm saying it wouldn't bother me if it did, given the nature of the crimes that put him there, and the ages of his last victims.

Yeah, if the person is bad enough, then I wouldn't lose much sleep over it either. But rape is still wrong, I think it's important to stand up to it even if it happens to those we despise. It's so backwards how in the U.S. inmate rape is essentially a part of the punishment you get, and everybody is okay with it

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Yeah, if the person is bad enough, then I wouldn't lose much sleep over it either. But rape is still wrong, I think it's important to stand up to it even if it happens to those we despise. It's so backwards how in the U.S. inmate rape is essentially a part of the punishment you get, and everybody is okay with it

If it makes you feel better, that is far more a perception than a reality. The people who draw all that "oh boy are you gonna get it in prison" satisfaction would be sorely disappointed to find out what prison is actually like. Not saying that rape doesn't happen or that prison is a great place to live, but it isn't what it is commonly made out to be either.

 

[sophie]

If it makes you feel better, that is far more a perception than a reality. The people who draw all that "oh boy are you gonna get it in prison" satisfaction would be sorely disappointed to find out what prison is actually like. Not saying that rape doesn't happen or that prison is a great place to live, but it isn't what it is commonly made out to be either.

https://deadspin.com/tag/prison-culture

 

[Timsup2nothin]

https://deadspin.com/tag/prison-culture

Relevant quote:

"I can speak only for myself, but in my own time in the New York State system, I rarely saw or even heard about non-consensual sex between men."

For myself, in my time in the Federal system, I did hear about one rape, but the report is dubious. A guy who was a known prostitute claimed rape; the other guy claimed he had paid as agreed but refused to make a second payment after the fact that was effectively blackmail. Hard to guess what really happened there since I didn't know either one of them well enough to measure credibility. General opinion among the inmates was about evenly divided.

 

[Lexicus]

Actually, that brings up a somewhat interesting scenario - assuming prostitution was legal, would attempting to swindle a prostitute by not paying count as some kind of sexual assault or battery?