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Is there any chance the African civ is Carthage, and the second leader is Scipio?
The DLCs 5 and 6 are meant to give underrepresented regions some representions - that's what comes to my mind when reading the announcement. While Carthage is geographically in Africa, I have trouble to think of it as an African civ culturally and historically. I think of it as a Mediterranean civ and I guess the same happens for quite some people. So while there is a chance that Carthage is the announced African civ, I think it is very unlikely and the coupling with Scipio even more so. And I'd really be pissed off if it would happen - I'm not sure if that would be the feeling of the majority though. If we ever get Carthage in civ VI (I think it doesn't necessarily belong to the 30 most important civs in history, so there'sno reason to have it in every game) I just hope they don't focus on the Punic wars again and instead make it about expansion, exploration and trade. Hanno the navigator or Mago I would be fitting leaders.Is there any chance the African civ is Carthage, and the second leader is Scipio?
My wife and I had two male dogs and got what we were told was a female cat. Took "her" to the vet to get spayed and the vet told us he'd actually had to neuter the cat (it was a fuzzy cat, okay?). Then about a year later we had our son...
Isabella isn't necessarily a mistake. It's probably that they planned to have her then decided against it. It was hinted that the civet is a team mascot for the devs.
Regardless of whether it was inevitable, the poster craze propelled it significantly.
England has two of it's former colonies in the game!).
Phoenicia could be interesting, but it has a few problems: it was never unified (not necessarily a huge problem--Greece and the Maya weren't either--but Tyre, Sidon, Byblos, etc. didn't even have the cultural unity that Greece or the Mayan city-states did), and there aren't any leaders really noteworthy for their personality (or much else, for that matter--I mean, the only leader I can think of is Ḥiram I of Tyre, whose major noteworthy accomplishment was selling Solomon some lumber). Carthage, meanwhile, had a unified empire in the western Mediterranean, and it had a good handful of leaders to choose from, most of whom have the surname Barqa, incidentally...Of course, our knowledge of Carthage is also a lot more limited than it ought to be (thanks, Scipio Aemilianus).I'd vote for a Phonecian civ over a Carhaginian civ personally (not that there couldn't be both - England has two of it's former colonies in the game!).
The interior of Carthage was the original Africa; the Africa name was later used for the entire continent.
Phoenicia could be interesting, but it has a few problems: it was never unified (not necessarily a huge problem--Greece and the Maya weren't either--but Tyre, Sidon, Byblos, etc. didn't even have the cultural unity that Greece or the Mayan city-states did), and there aren't any leaders really noteworthy for their personality (or much else, for that matter--I mean, the only leader I can think of is Ḥiram I of Tyre, whose major noteworthy accomplishment was selling Solomon some lumber). Carthage, meanwhile, had a unified empire in the western Mediterranean, and it had a good handful of leaders to choose from, most of whom have the surname Barqa, incidentally...Of course, our knowledge of Carthage is also a lot more limited than it ought to be (thanks, Scipio Aemilianus).
i have trouble believing that they will get 2 leaders per civ at this rate.
I have no trouble believing some civs will get 3 and others stuck with 1 like in Civ VI. Not that that's a bad thing, Kongo wouldn't really work with another leader.
That's funny... I was thinking Russia would be OP with another leader, and they are already pretty damn good.That would be cool. Russia is a good candidate for three.