DMI XII - Imhotep's Legacy

[·Imhotep·]

Well, I thought this would be a fairly boring set. I'd build the Taj and go in military build up mode. But I had not set Monty there for naught. He's the guy to spice things up . He got iffy and demanded 90 gold from us, almost all our treasure at that point. I declined as I have no inclination to yield to insane people, and as expected he behaved according to his legendary fame...

War, and I saved even a precious DoW . At the beginning of the set I thought it would be a good idea to move our SoD to the border. Came in handy now...

But first I had to mind more pressing affairs. Welcome Summer Home !

And a spicy 12 turn GA courtesy of MoM is nothing to scoff at. Monty couldn't have choosed a more perfect time for declaring, as now we'll enjoy super-boosted production of units...

Boobica still hangs in WHEEOH mode and doesn't want to declare on Monty. Oh well, you can't have all things...

Our Caravels are exploring nicely and met this beauty:

This set was somehow the time for AIs to get uppish - another insolent demand...

Mr. Peace-is-all-Kumbah-Yah is in the game too...

The Russian Hottie and Mr. Bald are better endorsed in tech then our ****** neighbors, but still behind us. Though we can't see yet how far down the Banking line they are...

We liberate a city !

And we get Engineering. This is heavily needed as Monty sports Knights. I queue up Pikes in our military cities...

And that was about my set. We're fine in tech. There may be some trades opening up soon.

Demographics are promising too.

We have a Great Prophet in the capital. Either we kick off another GA or we settle him at Memphis. Our troops are still healing in the newly aquired city. Don't move out before scouting - Monty's big stack consisting of Knights is right at hand in the fog. Have fun and good luck !

Imhotep

Spoiler The Log :

Logging by BUG Mod 3.0 [Build 1000] (BtS 3.13-3.17)
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Turn 145/500 (700 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:26:36]
Thebes finishes: Scotland Yard

After End Turn:
Thebes finishes: Catapult
Heliopolis grows to size 7

Turn 146/500 (720 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:27:51]
Thebes begins: The Parthenon (15 turns)

After End Turn:
Memphis finishes: War Chariot
A Hamlet was built near Memphis
Elephantine finishes: Courthouse
A Hamlet was built near Elephantine
Alexandria finishes: Lighthouse

Turn 147/500 (740 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:32:11]
Memphis begins: Courthouse (12 turns)
Elephantine begins: Worker (5 turns)
Alexandria begins: Courthouse (18 turns)

Turn 148/500 (760 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:34:18]
Swordsman promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Illinois, Swordsman loses to Barbarian Archer (0.93/3) (Prob Victory: 75.3%)
Swordsman promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Illinois, Swordsman (1.92/6) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 75.3%)
Axeman promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Illinois, Axeman loses to Barbarian Archer (1.20/3) (Prob Victory: 61.0%)
Axeman promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Illinois, Axeman (5.00/5) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
While attacking in Barbarian territory at Illinois, Axeman (5.00/5) defeats Barbarian Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
Captured Illinois (Barbarian)
Illinois begins: Granary (61 turns)

After End Turn:
Tech research finished: Metal Casting
Memphis grows to size 10
Alexandria grows to size 7

Turn 149/500 (780 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:37:10]
A Cottage was built near Heliopolis
Swordsman promoted: City Raider II
Pi-Ramesses founded
Research begun: Civil Service (10 Turns)
Pi-Ramesses begins: Granary (30 turns)
Memphis begins: Forge (6 turns)
Thebes begins: Forge (4 turns)
Heliopolis begins: Forge (12 turns)
Research begun: Currency (6 Turns)

Turn 150/500 (800 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:40:15]
A Plantation was built near Heliopolis
Alexandria begins: Forge (9 turns)

After End Turn:
Heliopolis grows to size 8
Elephantine finishes: Worker

Turn 151/500 (820 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:41:33]
Elephantine begins: Forge (6 turns)

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Thebes
The whip was applied in Memphis
The whip was applied in Heliopolis
The whip was applied in Alexandria
Thebes finishes: Forge
Memphis finishes: Forge
Heliopolis finishes: Forge
Alexandria grows to size 6
Alexandria finishes: Forge

Turn 152/500 (840 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:43:09]

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Elephantine
Memphis grows to size 9
Elephantine finishes: Forge

Turn 153/500 (860 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:44:05]
Elephantine begins: Barracks (9 turns)

After End Turn:
Heliopolis grows to size 7
Heliopolis finishes: Catapult
Elephantine grows to size 8
A Village was built near Elephantine

Turn 154/500 (880 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:45:11]
Heliopolis begins: Courthouse (24 turns)

After End Turn:
A Hamlet was built near Thebes
A Hamlet was built near Thebes
A Village was built near Thebes
A Hamlet was built near Heliopolis
Alexandria grows to size 7

Other Player Actions:
Montezuma (Aztec) and Boudica (Celtia) have signed a peace treaty
Attitude Change: Montezuma (Aztec) towards Boudica (Celtia), from 'Furious' to 'Annoyed'
Attitude Change: Boudica (Celtia) towards Montezuma (Aztec), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 155/500 (900 AD) [27-Aug-2008 16:45:48]
A Cottage was built near Elephantine
A Plantation was built near Heliopolis
Thebes begins: Mausoleum of Maussollos (14 turns)
Thebes begins: Settler (4 turns)

Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking: 3
Units victorious while defending: 0
Units withdrawing while attacking: 0
Units defeated while attacking: 2
Units defeated while defending: 0
Units escaping while attacking: 0

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Turn 210/500 (1500 AD) [09-Sep-2008 21:41:11]
Reminder: On Turn 220, stop playing

After End Turn:
Elephantine grows to size 11
A Hamlet was built near Giza
Byblos finishes: Courthouse

Turn 211/500 (1505 AD) [09-Sep-2008 21:43:06]
Byblos begins: Granary (8 turns)

After End Turn:
Memphis finishes: Caravel
Heliopolis finishes: Jewish Monastery
Elephantine's borders expand
Alexandria finishes: Harbor
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Caravel
A Hamlet was built near Pi-Ramesses
Anasazi's borders expand

Turn 212/500 (1510 AD) [09-Sep-2008 21:46:41]
A Mine was built near Byblos
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Heliopolis begins: Jewish Missionary (8 turns)
Alexandria begins: Crossbowman (3 turns)
Pi-Ramesses begins: Work Boat (2 turns)
Memphis begins: Market (6 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Pi-Ramesses
Heliopolis grows to size 11
Illinois grows to size 11

Turn 213/500 (1515 AD) [09-Sep-2008 21:48:26]
A Cottage was built near Byblos

After End Turn:
A Village was built near Heliopolis
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Work Boat
Giza grows to size 9
Giza's borders expand
A Hamlet was built near Giza

Turn 214/500 (1520 AD) [09-Sep-2008 21:49:17]
A Cottage was built near Heliopolis
A Farm was built near Heliopolis
A Plantation was built near Anasazi
Longbowman promoted: City Garrison I
Pi-Ramesses begins: Maceman (5 turns)

After End Turn:
The whip was applied in Illinois
The whip was applied in Giza
Tech research finished: Printing Press
A Town was built near Heliopolis
Alexandria finishes: Crossbowman
A Village was built near Alexandria
Illinois grows to size 8
Illinois finishes: University
Pi-Ramesses grows to size 9
Giza finishes: Courthouse

Turn 215/500 (1525 AD) [09-Sep-2008 21:50:36]
A Cottage was built near Byblos
Research begun: Engineering (5 Turns)
Alexandria begins: Maceman (4 turns)
Illinois begins: Jewish Monastery (8 turns)
Giza begins: Forge (60 turns)

After End Turn:
Golden Age begins
Thebes finishes: The Taj Mahal
Memphis grows to size 15
Elephantine finishes: Longbowman
Alexandria grows to size 15
Byblos grows to size 6
Anasazi grows to size 2

Turn 216/500 (1530 AD) [09-Sep-2008 21:53:36]
Montezuma (Aztec) declares war on DMI XII (Egypt)
Contact made: Russian Empire
City Garrison I (Longbowman) promoted: City Garrison I
A Fishing Boats was built near Anasazi
Elephantine begins: Maceman (7 turns)
War Chariot promoted: Combat II

After End Turn:
Thebes finishes: Maceman
Memphis finishes: Market
Elephantine grows to size 12
Alexandria finishes: Maceman
Illinois grows to size 9
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Maceman
Byblos finishes: Granary

Other Player Actions:
While defending in Egyptian territory at Byblos, War Chariot (3.40/5) defeats Aztec Chariot (Prob Victory: 90.1%)
Attitude Change: Montezuma (Aztec) towards DMI XII (Egypt), from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'

Turn 217/500 (1535 AD) [09-Sep-2008 21:58:00]
Contact made: Indian Empire
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
Thebes begins: Maceman (2 turns)
Memphis begins: Stable (2 turns)
Alexandria begins: Maceman (3 turns)
Pi-Ramesses begins: Maceman (3 turns)
Byblos begins: Longbowman (5 turns)
Tech traded to Gandhi (India): Philosophy
Tech traded to Gandhi (India): Paper
Tech acquired (trade, lightbulb, hut, espionage): Guilds
Thebes begins: Stable (2 turns)
Thebes begins: Knight (3 turns)

After End Turn:
Thebes grows to size 15
Thebes finishes: Stable
Shankara (Great Prophet) born in Thebes
Memphis finishes: Stable
Heliopolis finishes: Jewish Missionary
Illinois finishes: Jewish Monastery
Giza grows to size 7

Other Player Actions:
Attitude Change: Montezuma (Aztec) towards Gandhi (India), from 'Annoyed' to 'Furious'
Attitude Change: Gandhi (India) towards DMI XII (Egypt), from 'Annoyed' to 'Cautious'

Turn 218/500 (1540 AD) [09-Sep-2008 22:02:35]
While attacking in Aztec territory at Tzintzuntzen, Catapult loses to Aztec Longbowman (5.22/6) (Prob Victory: 1.4%)
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Aztec territory at Tzintzuntzen, Catapult loses to Aztec Longbowman (4.44/6) (Prob Victory: 5.3%)
Catapult promoted: City Raider I
While attacking in Aztec territory at Tzintzuntzen, Catapult loses to Aztec Longbowman (3.60/6) (Prob Victory: 16.2%)
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
While attacking, Catapult decimates Aztec Longbowman (Prob Victory: 34.7%)
While attacking in Aztec territory at Tzintzuntzen, Maceman (6.56/8) defeats Aztec Axeman (Prob Victory: 96.0%)
While attacking in Aztec territory at Tzintzuntzen, Maceman (8.00/8) defeats Aztec Axeman (Prob Victory: 95.7%)
While attacking in Aztec territory at Tzintzuntzen, Maceman (5.44/8) defeats Aztec Axeman (Prob Victory: 99.1%)
While attacking in Aztec territory at Tzintzuntzen, Maceman (1.60/8) defeats Aztec Longbowman (Prob Victory: 98.5%)
Hinduism has spread: Tzintzuntzen
Captured Tzintzuntzen (Montezuma)
Memphis begins: Knight (3 turns)
Heliopolis begins: Longbowman (8 turns)
Illinois begins: Longbowman (4 turns)
Tzintzuntzen begins: Theatre (51 turns)

After End Turn:
Whip anger has decreased in Illinois
The whip was applied in Byblos
Tech research finished: Engineering
Thebes finishes: Knight
Heliopolis finishes: Longbowman
Alexandria finishes: Maceman
Byblos finishes: Longbowman

Other Player Actions:
A Winery was destroyed near Byblos
A Winery near Byblos was destroyed by Aztec Horse Archer
A Fishing Boats was destroyed near Alexandria
A Fishing Boats near Alexandria was destroyed by Aztec Galley
Civics Change: Gandhi(India) from 'Decentralization' to 'Mercantilism'

Turn 219/500 (1545 AD) [09-Sep-2008 22:07:11]
Maceman promoted: City Raider I
Axeman promoted: Combat I
A Farm was built near Thebes
A Cottage was built near Anasazi
A Cottage was built near Anasazi
A Plantation was built near Anasazi
Research begun: Gunpowder (4 Turns)
Thebes begins: Knight (2 turns)
Heliopolis begins: Grocer (22 turns)
Alexandria begins: Trireme (2 turns)
Byblos begins: Pikeman (6 turns)
Thebes begins: Pikeman (2 turns)
Elephantine begins: Pikeman (6 turns)

After End Turn:
Memphis finishes: Knight
Heliopolis grows to size 12
Alexandria finishes: Trireme
Illinois grows to size 10
Pi-Ramesses finishes: Maceman
A Hamlet was built near Byblos
Anasazi grows to size 3

Other Player Actions:
While defending in Egyptian territory at Byblos, Axeman (5.00/5) defeats Aztec Spearman (Prob Victory: 99.3%)
A Road near Byblos was destroyed by Aztec Horse Archer
Reminder: stop playing

Turn 220/500 (1550 AD) [09-Sep-2008 22:11:01]
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Byblos, War Chariot (5.00/5) defeats Aztec Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
A Cottage was built near Heliopolis
Judaism has spread: Pi-Ramesses
While attacking in Egyptian territory at Alexandria, Navy Attack Ship I (2.00/2) defeats Aztec Work Boat (Prob Victory: 100.0%)
X-Bow Force I (Crossbowman) promoted: City Garrison I
City Garrison II (Longbowman) promoted: City Garrison I
Memphis begins: Pikeman (2 turns)
Alexandria begins: Work Boat (1 turns)
Pi-Ramesses begins: Pikeman (2 turns)

Battle Stats:
Units victorious while attacking: 6
Units victorious while defending: 2
Units withdrawing while attacking: 1
Units defeated while attacking: 3
Units defeated while defending: 0
Units escaping while attacking: 0

 

[·Imhotep·]

Wonders built: 7
Wars declared: 0
War Declarations left: 3
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Roster duty:

• Imhotep >> JUST PLAYED
• LKendter >> UP NOW
• ZPVCSPLFUIFDPEF >> ON DECK
• r_rolo1
• berserks01
• MyOtherCar

 

[LKendter]

LKendter >> UP NOW

I join a peaceful builders game and get stuck with war.

 

[MyOtherCar]

I believe it was a premature declaration. Spoils the whole tantric thing.

 

[·Imhotep·]

@Lee:

I'm sorry. But I didn't say this was with always peace setting on, did I ? You should hold easy enough, there is only 1 really good stack to destroy. And we all know the AI can't attack if it has not overwhelming numbers...

 

[MyOtherCar]

Maybe now is also the time to choose a religion to boost relations with one of the other civs and to make use of theocracy. I'd use the prophet for another GA so we can do a full Monty this war and kick him out of the game.

Peace man

 

[berserks01]

Just a notice to the team. I will be OOP and civ-less as well as possibly no internet access starting tomorrow (9/11) night til saturday (9/20) night. Please put me on autoskip during that period.

 

[LKendter]

Do we have any civics changes we want to make? I would prefer to take care of them during a GA.

 

[·Imhotep·]

Well, we could certainly go with Theocracy and a religion switch - should help for the war.

 

[MyOtherCar]

Maybe now is also the time to choose a religion to boost relations with one of the other civs and to make use of theocracy.

I am in agreement (bloody 10 character limit)

 

[LKendter]

1550 AD
I don't know what happened with building National Epic in the capitol, but I just queued it up behind the pike.
(IT) This rather scary stack just showed up.

1555 AD
(IT) We held, but I think Monty came out ahead. Since I think this game is bugged, I am not risking checking the log.


1560 AD
We have a general. Since I haven't seen a super medic, I am going to create one.
(IT) With us being at war, I pick military tradition as the next tech.


1565 AD
(IT) Alexander proves the world is round when our caravels can all but touch each other...


1570 AD
I sell out map to Gandhi for $40 and his map. There is no reason to hoard it now that we lost the round world race.
(IT) Monty's annoying galley is no longer in the south.
I refuse to give Gandhi nationalism.

I am not sure which way the team wants to go with the Monty war. I send our soldiers back to the field on the random event.


1575 AD
(IT) Nuisance battles continue around Tzin.


1580 AD
(IT) Monty gets serious again around Tzin.


1585 AD
The Monty SOD around Tzin is finally gone.

I officially double our golden age with the priest.


1595 AD
I find a missing civ - Shaka.


1600 AD
We just picked up a scientist.

Heroic Epic is now available. IMHO we should decide on the location before ZPV plays his turn. Our active general should settle in that city. I would like to take advantage of the golden age to get the Heroic Epic built quickly.

Monty will now talk, so we need to decide how far we want to push this war.

Imhotep
LKendter >> JUST PLAYED
ZPVCSPLFUIFDPEF >> UP NOW
R_rolo1 >> ON DECK
Berserks01
MyOtherCar

 

[r_rolo1]

*Humbly asks for a save*

 

[ZPV]

Heroic Epic is now available. IMHO we should decide on the location before ZPV plays his turn. Our active general should settle in that city. I would like to take advantage of the golden age to get the Heroic Epic built quickly.

Is this why there is no save?

 

[LKendter]

I continue to hate using the attachment system.
I've been screwed up with saves ever since the old upload system was hacked.

 

[ZPV]

Got it. I'll look at the save now and see which are our best production cities.

 

[ZPV]

On the Heroic Epic situation, there isn't an obvious solution. I guess Alexandria is best with Pi-Rameses second. I wouldn't build it in the capital, and putting it in Moai City doen't feel right.

 

[MyOtherCar]

On the Heroic Epic situation, there isn't an obvious solution. I guess Alexandria is best with Pi-Rameses second. I wouldn't build it in the capital, and putting it in Moai City doen't feel right.

Yup, I agree, Alexandria would be my choice as well. It also has acces to the sea, while Moai will drop more in hammer output once the GA is over.

Concerning the war: if we continue, Tlacopan and Cempoala would be nice prices, especially the former for the wines.

There's a trade available to get theology and banking for printing press from Catherine. Should we adopt a religion (Christianity) and make use of theocracy?

 

[ZPV]

I've played 10 turns, and we are now only 3 turns away from Rifling!

I built lots of Cuirassiers, and Monty has nothing to match them. (He has just gotten Engineering, and has one pike).

The Heroic Epic was built in Alexandria, which should continue pumping units.

First I captured this city, for the loss of a Treb:


A couple of turns later, Tlacopan is ours, for no losses:


I left some units unmoved, so that the next player can deal with this situation:



I think we have enough units about to capture the city, and when we do, Monty will show little further resistance. However, maybe it is better to move deeper into his territory (towards Tenochtitlan), watch as he moves his stack onto open ground, and smack it there.

 

[MyOtherCar]

Very nice progress, ZPVCSPLFUIFDPEF (yes copy-pasted this). I believe the team needs to make a decision: do we continue this war as far as economically possible (the "You have chosen unwisely" option) or get peace and give LKendter his peaceful builders experiece back . With rifling on the horizon, war is very attractive, but we should consider theocracy and a religion (too bad our GA ended).

 

[ZPV]

Very nice progress, ZPVCSPLFUIFDPEF (yes copy-pasted this). I believe the team needs to make a decision: do we continue this war as far as economically possible (the "You have chosen unwisely" option) or get peace and give LKendter his peaceful builders experiece back . With rifling on the horizon, war is very attractive, but we should consider theocracy and a religion (too bad our GA ended).

Well, I would like to cripple Monty (e.g. by taking Calixtlahuaca, Tenochtitlan and Tlatelolco), and then we can go builder again if we want.

If we are going to completely wipe Monty out, then we should capture the cities bordering Boudica last, as she will probably DoW us as soon as she has a route to our borders.