Do employers have a right to impose a dress code...

i, for one, think everyone should go to work looking like this:

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If I ever get a business, I'll require that everyone wear a pickelhaube to work. I'll even buy the hats for them. :mischief:
 
:confused: In what universe?
In this one. The First Amendment doesn't cover how you dress. It covers speech, religion, press, assembly, and redress of grievances. The First Amendment covers what you say (with your mouth and your pen, not with your threads), what you think, and what you believe. Not what you wear. And as for your right to peaceably assemble, you don't have the right to peaceably assemble on somebody else's turf. Your turf, yes. Someone else's, no.

Religion gets a special mention: no, it's not the clothes or the necklace or the religious dagger that makes you religious. It's what you believe in your BRAIN. If somebody hits you over the head and takes your kirpan away, does that somehow make you not a Sikh any more?? :rolleyes: Of course not.
 
Neither does the low pants religion. You don't see what I have to put up with every day!
 
It's the boss's call - if you don't like it, you don't have to work there. Obviously things which are intrinsic parts of certain people's religions (turbans, then, but not dishdashes) need to be allowed, but having worked for a 'company' which would check your sideburns with a spirit level in the mornings I can't say I feel sympathy for anyone being told to smarten up or lose the jewellry.
 
It's the boss's call - if you don't like it, you don't have to work there. Obviously things which are intrinsic parts of certain people's religions (turbans, then, but not dishdashes) need to be allowed, but having worked for a 'company' which would check your sideburns with a spirit level in the mornings I can't say I feel sympathy for anyone being told to smarten up or lose the jewellry.

I have had people working for me, in an office, wear a Shalwar Kameez and did not see a problem. They tended to be smarter than the average person in the office.
 
I have had people working for me, in an office, wear a Shalwar Kameez and did not see a problem. They tended to be smarter than the average person in the office.

Not disputing that - my point was that it's not religious discrimination to tell them to turn up in a shirt and tie, but it would be to ban turbans, since that would ban all Sikhs.
 
Obviously things which are intrinsic parts of certain people's religions (turbans, then, but not dishdashes) need to be allowed...

Why is this obvious? If you're not allowed to wear headgear, then it shouldn't matter what your personal opinions are. You're simply not allowed to wear headgear. One rule for all.

If I were the boss and had this problem, I would probably try to be pragmatic and allow all headgear. But I find it simply wrong that we should treat people differently because of their opinions. Just because some people refer to some of their opinions as "beliefs" don't make them more important than other opinions of other people.
 
Why is this obvious? If you're not allowed to wear headgear, then it shouldn't matter what your personal opinions are. You're simply not allowed to wear headgear. One rule for all.

If I were the boss and had this problem, I would probably try to be pragmatic and allow all headgear. But I find it simply wrong that we should treat people differently because of their opinions. Just because some people refer to some of their opinions as "beliefs" don't make them more important than other opinions of other people.

I agree, but in absence of this agreement we have a serious problem. Ultimately, only one (or no) worldview can turn out to be accurate. However, in the space between now and doomsday we have to work with practicalities. If religious belief becomes treated as an objective issue then it isn't a far step to mob rule of the worst kind.
 
When push comes to shove I too will probably go with pragmatism, but I still find it wrong. We should not make special rules for religions. Religion should be treated like any other fan club imo.
 
Religion should be treated like any other fan club imo.

In my kingdom where my rule was absolute it would work this way, but we aren't talking about crazy hypothetical worlds.

Granted, people would probably be too busy raging about my primae noctis decrees to bother about it :)
 
Why is this obvious? If you're not allowed to wear headgear, then it shouldn't matter what your personal opinions are. You're simply not allowed to wear headgear. One rule for all.

True, but most workplaces would frown upon a baseball cap, but as I said not a turban, because you can't fairly ban those except for reasons of safety. Even Her Majesty used to give our maroon turbans when required.
 
Why is this obvious? If you're not allowed to wear headgear, then it shouldn't matter what your personal opinions are. You're simply not allowed to wear headgear. One rule for all.

If I were the boss and had this problem, I would probably try to be pragmatic and allow all headgear. But I find it simply wrong that we should treat people differently because of their opinions. Just because some people refer to some of their opinions as "beliefs" don't make them more important than other opinions of other people.

I agree with this, but it'd just never fly in today's society - religion is just too important to too many people.

It'll be an exception to many rules for many years to come.
 
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