Do people have a right to work?

Do people have the right to work?

  • Yes

    Votes: 38 56.7%
  • No

    Votes: 14 20.9%
  • Other (please explain)

    Votes: 15 22.4%

  • Total voters
    67
People who never did odd job have no right to say that everyone must accept such job or die from hunger. (hope this statement does not make me lean left so much also) :mischief:
 
I certainly hope you didn't take my "let them eat cake" seriously and think I'd rather see someone starve than didn't work. No, nobody should starve obviously.
 
Why not tie a requirement of either proof of employment or ~20 hours/week community service to all social programs?
 
Why not tie a requirement of either proof of employment or ~20 hours/week community service to all social programs?

Some people would better like to stay in their homes than enjoy such things. You cannot force people to do things against their will.
 
Some people would better like to stay in their homes than enjoy such things. You cannot force people to do things against their will.
Indeed, but you don't have to pay out if they don't comply either. Saying the government will no longer provide money for nothing is not forcing anyone to do anything against their will.
 
Some people must to choose stay at homes also because their mental disabilities or sickness. Do you like government force them to such things also? If so, how you are sure they are for real sick or they just pretend because they like to stay at homes?
 
Everybody should have the right to a job(that is, paid work). That job might not be exactly what they want to be doing, but it should be available for them to put food on the table.
 
Other, because obviously anyone can work, but you cannot force someone to give you work, if you can't find someone to give you work? You can still work for yourself. I don't think that everyone is entitled to be employed.
 
Interesting translations of the Deuteronomy:

alien, the fatherless and the widow

foreigners, orphans, and widows

sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow

stranger, for the fatherless, and for the widow

man from a strange land, the child without a father, and the widow




I guess the Bible supports illegal immigration.




That is right. It is a known fact here on planet earth that employment and work have the same meaning.

Rather, the Bible supports legal immigration. Outlawing immigration would seem to be un-Biblical, based on your list of translations.


And IRT the OP: Your post provoked a lot of weasel-words. Right to work vs. right to salary, stuff like that.

I think it boils down to this: Do you have a right to food, clothing, and shelter?

Which further boils down to: Do you have a right to force me to feed, clothe, and shelter you?

To the former question, I wholeheartedly agree. It's a very short hop from "People (or some people) don't have a right to survive" to "kill off the undesirables."

To the latter ... that's harder. Do I have a right to steal? Do I have a right to steal if my life depends on it? How about if my life depends on it, and this theft will kill the victim (e.g. stealing insulin from a fellow diabetic)? Pondering it right now, I'm leaning towards "No", but I might change my mind tomorrow -- or even if the question is framed differently. I suspect the right answer is "decide on a case-by-case basis".

I think it's also helpful to turn the question around. I have plenty. Should I have the right to decide with whom I'll share my food? ... my house? ... my bed?

Should I have the right to starve someone to death simply because I have the food? How different is that from having the right to shoot the same person?

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It's not even a simple question when you restrict it to food, clothing, and shelter, much less the lavish wages of working in even the most menial of First World jobs.

Further, it kind of depends on the economic conditions. Today's economy is one of plenty, where we do actually produce enough food to feed everyone (if only it were properly distributed...). Despite the slow economy, overall we have enough resources that we could provide for everyone's basic needs. Contrast that with conditions in the 1500s, when some countries saw mass starvation.

It comes into sharper relief when the question turns into "Who gets to eat today: You or I?" -- and you both know people who died of starvation last night.
 
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