CavLancer
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Yeah, I feel the same way about Swedes.
do you believe in UFOs and aliens?
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mordhiem
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I believe that simple rules of probablilty show that life must exist outside our solar system, therefore life capable of space travel must exis somewhere. However, those same rles of probablilty show that it is extreemley unlikley that any space faring aliens live anywhere near us.
Pillager
League of Empire Loyalist
1. Probably
2. Hmm, maybe
3. Agreed
Obviously UFOs exist - until they are identified as weather balloons etc - and then they are IFOs.
Aliens? I'm not sure on this one. Beginning to think that actually no, there may not be life anywhere else. Sagan vastly overestimated the probabilites in the 60s and 70s.
Aliens? I'm not sure on this one. Beginning to think that actually no, there may not be life anywhere else. Sagan vastly overestimated the probabilites in the 60s and 70s.
I really used to believe they were visiting Earth.
After reading something like 100 books on it over several years, I believe that most of the UFO flaps were probably secret military stuff being tested. E.g. the Stealth Bomber was flying around for ten years before they unveiled it publicly. There have been plenty of weird experimental craft that will never see the light of day.
But I came to the the overwhelming conclusion that you will not learn any certain facts by reading 100 books about it. I therefore will not believe it unless I see it with my own eyes, or have it relayed by unimpeachable authority.
After reading something like 100 books on it over several years, I believe that most of the UFO flaps were probably secret military stuff being tested. E.g. the Stealth Bomber was flying around for ten years before they unveiled it publicly. There have been plenty of weird experimental craft that will never see the light of day.
But I came to the the overwhelming conclusion that you will not learn any certain facts by reading 100 books about it. I therefore will not believe it unless I see it with my own eyes, or have it relayed by unimpeachable authority.
Didn't they find some fossilised microbe/germ thing in a rock they got from mars a while back?
We are one planet, around one star, thats part of billions of stars in a galaxy, thats part of billions of galaxys.
Its crazy and pure ignorant to say that this all belongs to us. That there is no other life in the universe, and that we should know, because we,ve gone all the way to the MOON and back.
Was,nt so long ago that the greatest thinkers on the planet thought that the earth was flat, and sitting on a gaint turtles back.
We are one planet, around one star, thats part of billions of stars in a galaxy, thats part of billions of galaxys.
Its crazy and pure ignorant to say that this all belongs to us. That there is no other life in the universe, and that we should know, because we,ve gone all the way to the MOON and back.
Was,nt so long ago that the greatest thinkers on the planet thought that the earth was flat, and sitting on a gaint turtles back.
Aphex_Twin
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You've never seen the back of your head, yet you know it's out there...
Of the American mass media type, no. 
However, I do believe there's sentient alien life-forms out there. As for whether they've visited the Earth, probably yes. Just that at that time, probably no humans are around to witness it. Considering the Earth is 4.5 billion yrs old, a few visitations is quite possible. Just not in the human time-frame.
However, I do believe there's sentient alien life-forms out there. As for whether they've visited the Earth, probably yes. Just that at that time, probably no humans are around to witness it. Considering the Earth is 4.5 billion yrs old, a few visitations is quite possible. Just not in the human time-frame.
Originally posted by stalin006
well do u?
NO!!! They are Liars, all of them!!!
philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
Yes there are aliens but they connot reach us and we cant reach them.
But would you call bactaria alien life or no?
If ,so as well as i do you are 100% sure life exists.
Because they found in the ocean whole ecosystems who dont need the sun.
But would you call bactaria alien life or no?
If ,so as well as i do you are 100% sure life exists.
Because they found in the ocean whole ecosystems who dont need the sun.
ERIKK
multiplayer
I believe in Aliens but I do not believe in UFO's and all those things people come up with in stories (experiments etc.).
It sounds so stupid: alians travelling in UFO just to study us and than get seen by humans and then disppear! If you got all the technology, you can:
- show yourself and make contact
- do not show yourself AND leave no traces
It sounds so stupid: alians travelling in UFO just to study us and than get seen by humans and then disppear! If you got all the technology, you can:
- show yourself and make contact
- do not show yourself AND leave no traces
Melifluous
King
Yeah...
And as for area 51?
Given all governments track record in almost all areas...
Education, Transport systems, global war...
Is it likely they have perfectly covered up the existence of aliens?
No didn't think so...
But yeah I do believe aliens exist...
And there probably are Unidentified flying objects, lots of things shoot across the sky that I cant identify..
But these things being alien craft? Unlikely...
Melifluous
And as for area 51?
Given all governments track record in almost all areas...
Education, Transport systems, global war...
Is it likely they have perfectly covered up the existence of aliens?
No didn't think so...
But yeah I do believe aliens exist...
And there probably are Unidentified flying objects, lots of things shoot across the sky that I cant identify..
But these things being alien craft? Unlikely...
Melifluous
animepornstar
Deity
here is a link for you: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mirrors&r=67Originally posted by hedgehog
You've never seen the back of your head, yet you know it's out there...
Galaxies and stars have life cycles. Our own galaxy happens to be fairly young. The first generation of stars in our galaxy were composed of pure hydrogen. You can't build a solar system out of hydrogen! All you get is a boring red star, the kind that dominates our night sky. Stars, through fusion (or is it fission?), convert hydrogen into more interesting elements. After a star turns to dust, those interesting elements could coalesce with other stardust to form solar systems like ours, and maybe support something very interesting - life. By examining the light emitted by a star, we can guess its composition, and by that we can guess whether or not it could have planets, and even what they might be composed of. It will be a long time before stars like our own are commonplace, in this galaxy.
Other galaxies could be teeming with good, nutritious solar systems, and why a galactic cruiser doesn't pop by to blast us apart, I don't know. Perhaps it just isn't worth the effort. That might also be why spacepeople don't learn esperanto so they can talk to us.
There is a argument that the fact that we havent been visited unequivocably by aliens suggests quite strongly that there arent any to visit. Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is likely to be the best.
Building self reproducing molecules of any type requires a particular set of circumstances - the right elements, the right temperatures and the right amount of radiation - enough to cause mutation, not so much as to destroy the molecules that life may indeed be uniquely here.
Could be a vast lonely universe we're in here folks.
Building self reproducing molecules of any type requires a particular set of circumstances - the right elements, the right temperatures and the right amount of radiation - enough to cause mutation, not so much as to destroy the molecules that life may indeed be uniquely here.
Could be a vast lonely universe we're in here folks.
But thats like saying, because we have'nt 'visited' other lifeforms on other planets, we don't exsist.
Face it, we're are a bunch of ignorant, arrogant, baldy monkeys who think we are the greatest thing in the universe.
But in the grand scale of things we know nothing.
Simple.
PS. Who are we to say that life outside our planet works on the same principles of biology and science that we hold dear. 'Life as we know it' only comes from one source, Earth.
Face it, we're are a bunch of ignorant, arrogant, baldy monkeys who think we are the greatest thing in the universe.
But in the grand scale of things we know nothing.
Simple.
PS. Who are we to say that life outside our planet works on the same principles of biology and science that we hold dear. 'Life as we know it' only comes from one source, Earth.
Melifluous
King
Erm no it isn't...
Don't mean to cause offense, but do you read what other people post?
He was saying that after all this time we haven't been visited by aliens, maybe the easy answer is that they dont exist...
Hmm, cleared that up...
If you have something to add to the conversation besides a description of our race feel free...
I believe we were talking about UFO's and aliens...
Melifluous
Melifluous, no offence, but i think you just contradicted yourself.
What i was saying is that we are alien to any other planet, but can hardly get past our moon.
Maybe if there is other Intelligent life, they can't get to us.
"hmm cleared that up" Yeah right!:grad:
What i was saying is that we are alien to any other planet, but can hardly get past our moon.
Maybe if there is other Intelligent life, they can't get to us.
"hmm cleared that up" Yeah right!:grad:
Melifluous
King
OK now I'm totally confused...
That wasn't what I understood you to have said at all...
You said we haven't explored therefore we dont exist.
It's up there in black and white you fool...
OK that was flaming but to call me a liar in the face of such blatant evidence is somewhat incredible.
Anyway no problem... Whatever...
Melifluous
That wasn't what I understood you to have said at all...
You said we haven't explored therefore we dont exist.
It's up there in black and white you fool...
OK that was flaming but to call me a liar in the face of such blatant evidence is somewhat incredible.
Anyway no problem... Whatever...
Melifluous
