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There are white Hispanics, black Hispanics, and Hispanics with predominantly native American roots.
Do you consider Latin Americans as white?
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Cu Chulainn
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Race is mostly meaningless anyway especially when we try to subdivide beyond the original isolated groups. Pretty much everyone is a mix of this and that. I'd say that due to the cultural and racial backgrounds in Latin America, skin tones can range from the very light to the very dark and that "Latin American" is objectively a more cultural than racial distinction.
That said, anyone know why there's such variety in hair color amongst whites but generally all non whites have very dark hair regardless of skin tone?
That said, anyone know why there's such variety in hair color amongst whites but generally all non whites have very dark hair regardless of skin tone?
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Diverse in Unity
Hardly.
People deny it, but it is still an issue these days.
ON TOPIC: sure, if they look like Spanish and speak Spanish, I don't see why I shouldn't call them white. Should we call Spain and Portugal Latin American too?
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Hardly.
People deny it, but it is still an issue these days.
ON TOPIC: sure, if they look like Spanish and speak Spanish, I don't see why I shouldn't call them white. Should we call Spain and Portugal Latin American too?
it shouldnt be an issue though, and i think to most sensible people it isnt
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The problem has two dimensions. Either majority tends to generalize about the minority ("hey, that mexican guy stole my car! God, how I hate Mexicans!") or the minority abuses its status ("you wouldn't have fired me if I wasn't black, you racist!").
Unfortunately, we're programmed animals. We can overcome some of our basic instincts by education and training, but some things will probably never change. One program tells us to be wary of visibly different people, because 100,000 years ago, a new tribe arriving in the vicinity meant war, hunger and stealing women. Our brains are designed to exaggerate differences, because that helped us in the past.
I don't think that problems related to race is a matter of how sensible people are, it's about who they are. If people don't grow up in fully multiracial society, where people of various races have the same social positions and nobody belongs to the underclass, they tend to play the race card every time they get.
AL_DA_GREAT
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They are a mix of africans Europeans and natives. There is no latin race. Brasil is 19% pure white and 50% mainly white. Argentina is the only real white country.
AL_DA_GREAT
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Hardly.
People deny it, but it is still an issue these days.
ON TOPIC: sure, if they look like Spanish and speak Spanish, I don't see why I shouldn't call them white. Should we call Spain and Portugal Latin American too?
If they look spanish they probably are of Spanish decent.
Yes subdividing from larger groups is meaningless. But denying that 100 000 years of evolution is important is a very weird idea to me. Not to mention that cultural preservation is very much linked to ethnicall preservation.
The reason that they look different is because they ar of different ethnicities.
The natural hair/eye colour for humans is black. Everything else is a genetic malfunction. For us that live in the north these "faults" don't matter since there is very little sun so we won't get skin cancer anyways. The mutations have happend many times in Africa but they have all been knocked out because of selective breeding (they all got skin cancer).
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Generally speaking, yes. Pele is clearly not white. Ronhaldinho clearly is not white. Che Guevara clearly was. On someone like hugo Chavez, yeah I'd call him white even though he isnt 100% of European descent. for example, I think it was Elta posted pictures of him and his friends, they all looked white to me. Sure, much darker skin than I have, but even within Europe theres a variety in skin tones, compare an Icelandic person to an Albanian or Spaniard.
Gabryel Karolin
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Not really. Black hair and eyes = not white (in general) imo.
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And what about the "indians"? They didn't come from Europe (at least, anytime recently).
The people standing in front of me (Ecuador) are not white.
(Can you see how much I hate having my photo taken?) :laugh:
ps. The photo illustrates the losing of their culture.
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what about Spain, Italy, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria etc etc etc? none of them are white? Cause loads of them have those traits.
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Yeah well hes saying peple of european descent. Presumeably they arent, they look more like Asians than Europeans. I wouldnt call them white, I dont think many people would.
Gabryel Karolin
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I don't really consider them white, no. They are somewhere inbetween, same as Turks and Arabs.
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Eh, what?
"White" race is more related to the color of the skin, the shape of the face and certain other traits.
Southern Europeans, Arabs, even Indians are technically "white". Of course this term is totally inappropriate because of the many subdivisions.
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What?? Are you serious?? you dont consider Italians to be white? By an definition they are white... is this some idelogical issue you have? Their skin tone dosent discount them from being white, even Irish people can go that colour with enough sun...
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How do you know? Maybe they do. this has come up as its been discussed many times before on how in general europeans consider hispanics to be white but Americans seem to count them in a different category
