Do you think homophobia is still a problem? Elton John does.

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On 21 December 2005 I was legally bound to the man I love, on the first day that civil partnerships were possible. It's my legal right and my human right and I wanted everyone to know - I wanted to shout about it but I still felt nervous about the public's reaction. I was, therefore, delighted and relieved on leaving the register office in Windsor to find the crowd outside cheering and supporting our union as I had feared that abusive, banner-waving bigots would try to spoil the occasion. I felt so proud that day to be British.

There has been substantial progress on gay rights in Britain, but we can't be complacent, not when homophobia still exists here and not when people around the world live in fear solely because of their sexuality. In some countries, my voice would have been drowned out - maybe even stamped out. For many, basic rights are still a matter of life and death.

There are individuals suffering because of their sexuality every day. Last year, William Hernández had a gun pressed against his neck outside the San Salvador offices of his gay rights organisation, the Asociación Entre Amigos. William and his colleagues who speak out for gay rights in El Salvador had been protesting against moves to amend the constitution formally to prevent gay marriage.

"We will kill you before you can get married," said his attacker.

The offices of Entre Amigos had been broken into and ransacked two nights before. Nothing of value had been stolen, but details of planned events were taken and written homophobic threats were left in the offices. It was the seventh such break-in in five years. These are not isolated incidents in El Salvador - attacks on gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people are commonplace. And those responsible are seldom brought to justice.

Men and women are persecuted and attacked every day all over the world, just because of whom they love and whom they make love to. Gay sex is criminalised in more than 80 countries.

Homophobia impacts on health education. Information that could help prevent the spread of HIV and Aids (a subject close to my heart as founder of the Elton John Aids Foundation) is suppressed, or those providing it or seeking it out are persecuted. Indeed, William and his colleagues are targeted partly because they provide sex education for gay people in El Salvador. In Uganda, a radio station was fined when one of its programmes discussed the need for HIV/Aids services for gay men. In India, people have been arrested, beaten and charged under anti-sodomy laws for giving out information on safe sex. Gay people in many African countries are at greater risk of HIV/Aids because they are less likely to receive information and treatment.

In some European countries, the bigots have a loud voice and they're not being shouted down. Pride marches are still banned in some cities in eastern Europe (including Moscow, whose mayor recently described gay parades as "satanic"); gay people in Latvia were attacked and spat at when they tried to march last year.

In September 2006, on stage in Warsaw, I decided to use a concert to make a statement about homophobia in Poland: "Twenty-two years ago I came to Gdansk and went to the home of Lech Walesa who . . . fought for freedom and his own human rights . . . and I will never ever forget that moment and to see him again tonight makes my heart full of warmth and love.

"I am just a musician. I come and I play and I hopefully make everyone's troubles disappear for a couple of hours . . . and I am also a gay man . . . and I know that in Poland recently there has been a lot of violence towards gay people . . . and I urge you . . . this is a time for compassion.

"There is enough hatred in the world. Leave gay people alone. We are just trying to be ourselves. We do not mean any harm.

"Love is what it's all about . . . and the Polish people have always been full of love."

This month I celebrate my 60th birthday. It is 40 years since the decriminalisation of homosexuality in the UK, and yet it is still sadly outlawed in many parts of the world. I want to shine a spotlight on William Hernández, his colleagues and the many, many individuals who stand up for human rights around the world, at great risk to their personal safety. People like William are a lot braver than me, because when the bigots shout abuse, he shouts back at them. And the more visible he and others are, the louder their voices become. Eventually, with support, they'll shout the bigots down.

So, today, I shout out to William, a brave guy doing a dangerous and vital job. My voice has served me pretty well over the years; I hope maybe it can do him some good, too. But we need more voices. Whether the bigot is in our local pub or a thousand miles away, we should all stand up and speak out for basic human rights. I want to ask you, today, to add your voice.


Sign up to Amnesty's campaign at http://www.amnesty.org.uk/william

I think he makes some good points. It's horrifying that gay's a still being criminalized in 80 countries.
 
Its still a major problem, but its getting better.
 
If people in the world today can still be sentenced to death for engaging in homosexual acts, there's still a problem...
 
I hate the word homophobia. I believe such thing doesn't exist. Call it differently, discrimination, or anything, and we can talk, but "homophobia" is a clearly misused word. :)
 
Fear and/or hatred of homosexuals; seems pretty straightforward to me...!
 
Fear and/or hatred of homosexuals; seems pretty straightforward to me...!

Not at all. Let me give you an example: When I see a spider or a big bug, I have an uncontrollable fear, and I have the urge to run as far as possible from the thing (it's true for me, BTW). This is something that could be called a phobia. By definition, you don't choose to have a phobia, nor can you control or stop it. If by homophobia you mean the uncontrollable fear of homosexuals, (e.g. if a person has the "symptoms" that I have with certain insects), then you are right. But if you mean the attitude of being less tolerant or hating homosexuals, (which is something that you choose), that's not a phobia, it contradicts the basic definition of a phobia.
 
Not at all. Let me give you an example: When I see a spider or a big bug, I have an uncontrollable fear, and I have the urge to run as far as possible from the thing (it's true for me, BTW). This is something that could be called a phobia. By definition, you don't choose to have a phobia, nor can you control or stop it. If by homophobia you mean the uncontrollable fear of homosexuals, (e.g. if a person has the "symptoms" that I have with certain insects), then you are right. But if you mean the attitude of being less tolerant or hating homosexuals, (which is something that you choose), that's not a phobia, it contradicts the basic definition of a phobia.

How do explain other words, like xenophobia then?
 
I see homophobia has still a major problem in this world. In the UK it has gotten better but it's still a problem, I still know people who hate homosexuality in men and so forth.

@Mirc - your what, 15 right? , I certainally would not have trusted the 15 year olf me to udnerstand 'homophobia' properly.
 
Not at all. Let me give you an example: When I see a spider or a big bug, I have an uncontrollable fear, and I have the urge to run as far as possible from the thing (it's true for me, BTW). This is something that could be called a phobia. By definition, you don't choose to have a phobia, nor can you control or stop it. If by homophobia you mean the uncontrollable fear of homosexuals, (e.g. if a person has the "symptoms" that I have with certain insects), then you are right. But if you mean the attitude of being less tolerant or hating homosexuals, (which is something that you choose), that's not a phobia, it contradicts the basic definition of a phobia.

Exactly :clap:
 
Not at all. Let me give you an example: When I see a spider or a big bug, I have an uncontrollable fear, and I have the urge to run as far as possible from the thing (it's true for me, BTW). This is something that could be called a phobia. By definition, you don't choose to have a phobia, nor can you control or stop it. If by homophobia you mean the uncontrollable fear of homosexuals, (e.g. if a person has the "symptoms" that I have with certain insects), then you are right. But if you mean the attitude of being less tolerant or hating homosexuals, (which is something that you choose), that's not a phobia, it contradicts the basic definition of a phobia.
True. How about "bigots" then?
 
When in doubt, "Asshat" covers most situations.

This is a person who is using their own posterior as a moist, cozy shelter from the realities of the twenty-first century. Much like an ostrich burying its head in sand.
 
Not at all. Let me give you an example: When I see a spider or a big bug, I have an uncontrollable fear, and I have the urge to run as far as possible from the thing (it's true for me, BTW). This is something that could be called a phobia. By definition, you don't choose to have a phobia, nor can you control or stop it. If by homophobia you mean the uncontrollable fear of homosexuals, (e.g. if a person has the "symptoms" that I have with certain insects), then you are right. But if you mean the attitude of being less tolerant or hating homosexuals, (which is something that you choose), that's not a phobia, it contradicts the basic definition of a phobia.
I agree that "homophobia" isn't used correctly in the strictest sense, but since the common usage is (a) used so widely, and (b) understood so widely to mean bigotry/discrimination/whatever against homosexuals, I have no real problem with its use.

On topic: Homophobia is still a problem. Attitudes are changing, but slowly. I predict the same sort of insidious bigotry as in racism before it's completely gone for good.
 
I agree that "homophobia" isn't used correctly in the strictest sense, but since the common usage is (a) used so widely, and (b) understood so widely to mean bigotry/discrimination/whatever against homosexuals, I have no real problem with its use.

Precisely. The English language is full of words that don't mean what they strictly should.
 
Gay being a classic example.

Gay: Happy, jolly, carefree.

Gay: slang: Homosexual

Gay: slang: Rubbish, stupid, etc. ie that comment was so gay.
 
@Mirc - your what, 15 right? , I certainally would not have trusted the 15 year olf me to udnerstand 'homophobia' properly.

Sure, I also don't trust your 15 year old to understand homophobia. ;)

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No, I was just kidding, no offense. :D

Let's take a closer look at what you said:

You dismissed a properly argumented post on the basis of my age. How is this accurate? This is not a good way of debating. If every time someone says something we accuse him of "being a blonde", "being from a backwards country", "being 15", "drinking alcohol", we are not going to get anywhere.

This really is a part of what is holding down the human society right now. People do not want to accept what is acceptable and don't accept what is unacceptable (explanation a few rows below). A 15-year old to make a perfectly logical post in response to a term that he finds wrong is perfectly acceptable.

There is an unfortunately very common mentality that says this: "If I can't understand this, nobody can". That is so common, that you might not even observe it. I can give hundreds of examples of what I mean. Let's see: After the Romanian revolution from 1989 that overthrew communism, some youngsters (18-25 year olds) gathered with thousands in a certain square from my city. They were asking for various reforms that hadn't been made.

A well-known journalist said on TV that days: "This is stupid. This idea is wrong, this one is wrong too, etc. They should stop making idiotic demands". After 5 years, he announced publicly, at his show, what was best to be done. Someone commented with the following words: "But this is exactly what the University square asked for, in 1990!"

To my surprise, his answer was: "Yes, it is. But it was obviously a lucky happening, it is absurd to say those <not sure how to translate this word> actually realized what was good for us. They were just lucky, they couldn't have thought that by themselves".

Notice the similarity? He can't understand that someone realized that things 5 years before him, so he believed they were just asking for random stuff.
Let me give you another example: An employee from a restaurant suggests his boss that they would have much more clients if they arranged the tables and smoking/nonsmoking areas differently. His answer is negative: "No, it wouldn't bring any benefits, and it's difficult to do.".

After almost 6 months, the owner of a huge restaurant comes there to eat. He is honored to have him there, and shows him clear honest respect. The other patron suggests exactly what the employee said. The owner of this restaurant decided to give it a try. It had great results. The employee came to him and said something along the lines of "I told you". Do you know what the owner's answer was?

Here it is: "When you suggested that, we weren't prepared. It just happened that now it had good results. The guy that suggested me this is a very experienced owner, and you don't have his qualifications to give advice. Now it was useful. If I did this when you suggested, I believe it wouldn't have been successful".

See what I mean? Believing someone can not give good advice or have a proper opinion because of his qualifications, age, sex, etc. is an awful mentality. I however see that you did this without thinking about what saying this implies. That's exactly the opinion of communism-influenced teachers that I met so often in my life: "Grow up, and then talk to me". Or "Spend 10 hours a day working and then give me advice".

In this case, I was stating my opinion (of which I'm quite certain) about the word homophobia. Why did you need to say that words? It really makes me feel bad, and it often makes the person who says that to appear in a really bad light. I'm not saying this, but all the people who agree with my opinion will think: So what if he couldn't say that when he was 15? It's not something to brag about. And that's my opinion on that.

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BTW, do you really want to compare me with the average 15 year old? For a start, let's see: how many 15 year olds do you know that can, while spending their time on a strategy game forum, answer with a clear and most important reasoned position, then make a proper answer when they are reminded their age, all this in a language totally foreign to them?

If you really want, I can show you some videos of me debating on TV. I've unfortunately only once participated to a TV show in English, but appeared over 100 times in Romanian. I just had a concert this morning at the national radio hall, that was transmitted live on 2 different radio channels at the same time. Do you want to see an article about me on the Internet? So, do you think this is bragging? Sorry, but you asked for it! ;)
 
Mirc I'm not taking part in this discussion, but I would be interested in seing such a television program with you. If you can somehow prove it's you though. :);)
 
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