This guys about as far from being a sell-out as can be possible Immortal Technique take a listen sometime he's really good.
Does Hip-Hop suck?
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This guys about as far from being a sell-out as can be possible Immortal Technique take a listen sometime he's really good.
CartesianFart
Deity
Who cares about preferences! Either you do like it or not, make no difference to me.
Rambuchan
The Funky President
Word, thas tha truth. But it ain't tha double truth Ruth.It's just the cycles of music like anything else. Hip hop got popular in the 90's so suddenly every label was out to sign whatever mediocre talent they could find, as long as they could market it as 'urban'. ANd now, big surprise, the market is flooded with crappy music that no-one really wants to buy anymore.
Rap will decline for a few years, then come back in a better form (and then, of course, get crappy again)
Ditto brother. But it ain't tha whole truth.
Word up!!! Yo' post is tha shiznitz!! You hit it awl, and then some.
The interesting thing is that work like that from Paris, or NWA, or Public Enemy, or Nas, was essentially gangster rap. But it was political gangster rap. And it was the newspaper for the ghetto. It also refused to compromise and meet 'the man' on his terms. The equivalent artists today, like Fifty Cent or even Snoop, talk only about getting rich and the American dream, not so much about why they and their brothers are poor in the first place. They have simply lost the message and, as a result, the ear of the key musical fan base that supported rap music in the first place. Rap artists need to reclaim that ground.
PS. Remember these guys?
CaptainF
The Professional Poster
Immortal Technique is a good example of underground hip hop that sucks ass.
Dude sounds like a winded fatso after running up a flight of stairs trying to rap with any sort of composure.
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
50 cent aint even that popular.
All these white folks always . .. .. .. .. .ing about 50 cent, who hasn't been . .. .. .. . since 2003 and the rise of Lil Jon and all the other honest commercial and regional hip hop.
All these white folks always . .. .. .. .. .ing about 50 cent, who hasn't been . .. .. .. . since 2003 and the rise of Lil Jon and all the other honest commercial and regional hip hop.
Leonel
Breakfast Connoisseur
I've heard it be compared to the rise and fall of disco.
I predict the next big hip hop star will be called Little Debbie.
CaptainF
The Professional Poster
Which is complete bullshat.
skadistic
Caomhanach
Well, not necessarily.
Hip Hop, because of its low cost of production, and fairly deep talent pool, ought to give the genre more staying power than Disco. However, the factors that lead to the rise and fall of disco are similar to those that are hurting hip hop (namely, market saturation with subpar talent. For every Fugees and Diana Ross, there were 10 shatty artists trying to cut a Disco record to make a quick buck)
skadistic
Caomhanach
Disco duck ..........
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
did disco really die though? Obviously straight up disco crashed and burned, but with 80s music like synthpop, as well as complimentary underground music like house, disco effectively disguised itself as other things and lives on to this day.
Well, I think its unfair to say that Disco is really the father of those movements. Electronic musical developments started before Disco really got off the ground. Disco is more of a bastardized cousin of Soul and Funk
CaptainF
The Professional Poster
It's not really going to die I don't think.
Hip Hop started in the Bronx, as just a way for house parties to get livened up. It's gradually evolved into something way more than that. Disco has always been, and always will be, a way to get laid and blow lines.
In my own twisted analogy, only the Big Bad Wolf would choose Grandma.
MjM
Deity
Yes it does
Hygro
soundcloud.com/hygro/
I don't agree. Soul and funk and r&b created disco, yeah, and so did white rock n roll. Disco started as disc-based club music, so it actually included those four aforementioned genres, before becoming its own sound. That sound directly led to house music, including garage (New York's more disco sounding alternative to Chicago's house), which was about a third or more of what started rave music. Disco also led to Hi-NRG, which is often called disco anyway, that was popular in the early 80s. Hi-NRG and house led to trance, the most popular rave music today. Techno filled the void of disco, but wasn't directly a disco offspring. As did synthpop. And in Europe disco lived on as... disco. Before succumbing to post disco music.
Pretty much all the genres I listed have a very discoesque beat and song construction.
Granted my perspective is very heavily from an electronic music perspective.
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
Narz
keeping it real
Indeed. Seems like there is barely any non-crunk hip-hop on the radio anymore. Everything is about being "up in the club" "dancing up on that ass". It's pathetic and reflects even more poorly on black culture (and the dumb white kids that like it / don't know any better) than anything before it.
