Cloud_Strife
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Just found it odd, especially given how Jordan Peterson acolytes like to criticise Cathy Newman.
Although she was right, Peterson is a regressive dinosaur that is flirting with the alt-right.
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Just found it odd, especially given how Jordan Peterson acolytes like to criticise Cathy Newman.
Although she was right, Peterson is a regressive dinosaur that is flirting with the alt-right.
If I've learned anything about the philosophy of language, is that (almost) nothing is "properly" defined (assuming this means necessary and sufficient conditions). The world is a flux upon which we try to force language on, in order to make it intelligible to us. Perhaps all concepts are Wittgensteinian family resemblance concepts.
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Quoting for future analytical reference, should original post be deleted.
Here's the bit of it I need specifically:
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brennan
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Classic statement from someone who appears not to know any of his opinions. He's a centrist at worst, with some decidedly progressive views. He just disagrees with the notion that feminism provides useful models for describing and changing society.
Cloud_Strife
Deity
There's a difference between disagreeing with feminism and putting forward the idea that women should expect to be sexually harrassed if they work with men, going by Peterson's own words here.
What's your point Farm Boy? Got anything useful to say? Or are you more interesting in throwing shade?
Senethro
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Whats the progressive alternative to feminism and does anyone speak for it?
Senethro
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k, so more directly, how many races are there?
Cloud_Strife
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What's funny is that Peterson isn't anything close to being a progressive, especially when he takes alot of his social cues from the goddamn bible
Here's a little quote from him:
"There was no equality for women before the birth control pill. It's completely insane to assume that anything like that could've possibly occurred. And the feminists think they produced a revolution in the 1960s that freed women. What freed women was the pill, and we'll see how that works out. There's some evidence that women on the pill don't like masculine men because of changes in hormonal balance. You can test a woman's preference in men. You can show them pictures of men and change the jaw width, and what you find is that women who aren't on the pill like wide-jawed men when they're ovulating, and they like narrow-jawed men when they're not, and the narrow-jawed men are less aggressive. Well all women on the pill are as if they're not ovulating, so it's possible that a lot of the antipathy that exists right now between women and men exists because of the birth control pill. The idea that women were discriminated against across the course of history is appalling."
From: https://www.c2cjournal.ca/2016/12/w...ts-lies-an-interview-with-dr-jordan-peterson/
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There kind of isn't. That is one of the things feminism has achieved, so to disagree with feminism as a whole is to disagree with sexual harassment law.
Cloud_Strife
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Peterson's views on women align more closely with conservative fundamentalist christianity, perhaps even fundamentalist islam.
Nice meltdown i guess
Cloud_Strife
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Lexicus
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Cloud_Strife
Deity
How about we actually ask women whether they are comfortable with rescinding said law? Just putting that radical idea out there
If we are going to have any laws, then ones preventing unwanted sexual contact are probably ones we want.
Because unwanted sexual contact is quite bad, and stopping it does not have much cost.
