Unless we clear this thing up I think this will always drag our race related discussion more to the subtopic than the main topic. I also invites other that I know enthusiast on discussing this topic @Angst and @Peuri Let me start the discussion by asking you, the reader's, opinion about three things: 1. Does Race exist and has its reference/basis in reality? 2. Are we agreed that many variable can be racialized? 3. If any neutral, non race variable (despite race itself exist or not in reality) suffers racism and being treat like one, can it declare itself as a victim of racism despite it is not being a race?