AceDragon
Warlord
Scroll up, mates. Your question has been asked many times before and its been answered above.
Rise and Rule is gonna Rule !!!
Rise and Rule is gonna Rule !!!
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Isak
Civ4 Scenario Designer
I'm afraid it's not possible to upgrade from 1.50x - version 2.00 which went on the Best of the Net cd was created in only a few days, and there was no time to keep track of changes well enough to enable patching. Sorry about that. But the good side of that is, that we can weed out some old bugs and 'side-effects' that would otherwise be carried over from older versions. So in a way, you can consider it a fresh start. 
And yup - AceDragon is right. This mod is not supposed to work in Conquests, since it was built with PtW.
But if you're willing to do as WhteDrgn did, you may in the end be successful.
We're probably going to release a patch to make it work under Conquests eventually, but as stated in our 'Troubleshooting' guide on the DYP site, creating Rise and Rule has top priority right now.
And yup - AceDragon is right. This mod is not supposed to work in Conquests, since it was built with PtW.
But if you're willing to do as WhteDrgn did, you may in the end be successful.We're probably going to release a patch to make it work under Conquests eventually, but as stated in our 'Troubleshooting' guide on the DYP site, creating Rise and Rule has top priority right now.
If you haven't already done this, you can disregard. If you have, thanks for looking into it.
Turns out my install of Win2k is corrupted. I tried to upgrade it to SP4, and the update crashed. So I'll have to rebuild it. If I still have problems after the rebuild, then I'll let you know. Otherwise, everything should be GTG.
Isak
Civ4 Scenario Designer
Ok, that's good to know. I hadn't looked into it yet, as I'm at work right now. I hope it works after you rebuild w2k, but if not, please let me know
Will do!
Azeral,
I've been working on trying to modify DyP 1.50 for that map (it's 362x362). I used one of the existing scenarios for DyP, imported the map, then added all the extra resources. (I used the PTW editor, not the C3C
However, when I tried to load the new scenario in PTW 1.27f, I got an error at 46 percent in...I was told I was missing a file, but for the missing name, all I got was a "#" and nothing else.
More testing showed that it had to be a map problem, as I tried using the random map in the same .bix file, and received trhe same problem.
Last night, I started over with DYP 2.01. I was able to impoer the map succesfully, and had no crash at 46 percent in the loading process. Sometime today, I'll add all the resources and see how that goes. Wish me luck, and hope this helps.
Miccal101
I've been working on trying to modify DyP 1.50 for that map (it's 362x362). I used one of the existing scenarios for DyP, imported the map, then added all the extra resources. (I used the PTW editor, not the C3C
However, when I tried to load the new scenario in PTW 1.27f, I got an error at 46 percent in...I was told I was missing a file, but for the missing name, all I got was a "#" and nothing else.
More testing showed that it had to be a map problem, as I tried using the random map in the same .bix file, and received trhe same problem.
Last night, I started over with DYP 2.01. I was able to impoer the map succesfully, and had no crash at 46 percent in the loading process. Sometime today, I'll add all the resources and see how that goes. Wish me luck, and hope this helps.
Miccal101
So I build a couple of Ninjas, (playing Tibet) and try to go on a resource-denial spree against Siam. But they come out of nowhere to attack my Ninjas. They attacked with Shaolin Monks and Samuri. I checked the editor, and neither had 'Detect Invisible' checked. What's going on?This is 1.50x. If it's fixed in 2.01, well, I'm d/ling that one now.
Isak: Not yet, had one, then I started working with version 2.01, then I decided to take a break because my time was getting filled up with writing a novel for the nanowrimo.org thing. Only one more week on that, and I only need about 20,000 more words then I take a week's vacation and work on at least getting a patch work around in place for 2.01 to conquests conversion.
Tuner_727: No clue, although I have run into it as well, and my thoughts are... the computer just plain cheats. It probably got plugged in that invisibility units at all were to hard against even the best AI so they gave the AI a virtual detect for all units. As such, even if they just have a spearmen near you, they'll come for you. A lot like how barbarians tend to swarm toward your juicy spearmen even if their's an enemy city nearby that's more enjoyable to torment.
Tuner_727: No clue, although I have run into it as well, and my thoughts are... the computer just plain cheats. It probably got plugged in that invisibility units at all were to hard against even the best AI so they gave the AI a virtual detect for all units. As such, even if they just have a spearmen near you, they'll come for you. A lot like how barbarians tend to swarm toward your juicy spearmen even if their's an enemy city nearby that's more enjoyable to torment.
Kal-el
Deity
Turner, as we all know the AI can see everything, even if it is invisible. It has been programmed to ignore invisible units until they become visible, but it has also been programmed to seek and destroy all non-affiliated units and unfortunately upt to PtW the latter overrode the former. My understanding is that this has been fixed in Conquests, because it would have caused problems in the Sengoku scenario if it had not been fixed. Hopefully they fixed it, I haven't been able to test.
Thanks Kal-el. 
Pretty much what I suspected. Too bad they're not patching PTW any more.
Pretty much what I suspected. Too bad they're not patching PTW any more.
Isak
Civ4 Scenario Designer
If this problem is too annoying in PtW, we may do a fix for it at some point, but lets see how it plays out over a few games.
I'll go back and look at my save. I may be getting confused here. . . . I was about to fly off on a rant, and realized that I may not have my facts in order. So I'll play with it a bit, and upgrade to 2.01x here after this game.
Alrighty then.. . .I was thinking that the Ninja unit was invisible, as well as hidden nationality. Is there any particular reason why it wasn't? I mean, it make sense to me to have that particular unit tree be invisible. . .especially if it can detect invisible. Might add another element to the game. Anyways, any thoughts on it?
I think I may mod 2.01 (but in truth, I haven't looked at it yet) to include this change, and see how it goes.
I think I may mod 2.01 (but in truth, I haven't looked at it yet) to include this change, and see how it goes.
Kal-el
Deity
It should be invisible, I think it is though I haven't checked, but that doesn't mean the AI will not still go after them. For some reason the AI ignores the fact that a unit is invisible if it also is marked as hidden nationality. The AI hates HN so much that it will ignore all other rules and seek out and kill the HN units.
Warlord 101
Resident Animator II
What's new to Dyp 2.01 that wasn't in DyP 1.5?
Kal-el
Deity
There are a lot of changes, but we didn't have time to make a changelog when we rushed to make 2.0x for the presale.
In other news, CFC is now a mirror for DyP. Here are the download links:
Full DyP 2.01x for PtW
Full DyP 1.01r for Civ3
Update_DYP PTW 2.00x to 2.01x
Update DYP 1.00r to 1.01r
In other news, CFC is now a mirror for DyP. Here are the download links:
Full DyP 2.01x for PtW
Full DyP 1.01r for Civ3
Update_DYP PTW 2.00x to 2.01x
Update DYP 1.00r to 1.01r
Isak
Civ4 Scenario Designer
Actually there is a sort of comprehensive changelog. It doesn't mention the little details, but the bigger changes are there.
Warlord 101
Resident Animator II
But is it not a Horse-bound Unit?
And for some reason, my eyes lit up at the mention of a Motor Cycle Scout. I have no idea why though.
I see all the changes as for the better though, ofcourse.
But bring back Big Ben. It was nicely over-powered.
Also, is my suggestion I made a while ago of Antarctica and Antarctic Exploration going to be taken into account?
connor
Highlander
So, does 2.01 work seamlessly with Conquests? I have held off purchasing Conquests till I am sure it will play nice with DyP! Thanks.
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