conorbebe
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Egyptians 25 (28 - 3) Well this is fun.
Indians 38 (37 + 1) Extremely fun.
Indians 38 (37 + 1) Extremely fun.
Elimination Game Thread - Which Civs Need a Second Leader?
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Guatenadian
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Egyptians 23 (22+1) See below
Indians 36 (39-3) Mughal Civ!
Indians 36 (39-3) Mughal Civ!
Egyptians 20-3=17 - Egypt needs a second leader. Cleopatra was maybe a great personality, but she eventually lost her entire empire. But she was a ruler, unlike Gandhi.
Indians 37+1=38 - Gandhi is surely a great personality. He managed to gain the independence of India without using violence... But as I said, unlike Cleopatra, he was never a president or prime minister. And that is why I'm not happy that he is repeatedly appearing just for the old nuke meme.
Indians 37+1=38 - Gandhi is surely a great personality. He managed to gain the independence of India without using violence... But as I said, unlike Cleopatra, he was never a president or prime minister. And that is why I'm not happy that he is repeatedly appearing just for the old nuke meme.
Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
Egyptians (17-3)=14 In Civ terms, Cleo is less exposed than Gandhi.
Indians (38+1)=39 Getting tired of the Gandhi nuke meme, hopefully he is replaced by the 10th Civ game...
Indians (38+1)=39 Getting tired of the Gandhi nuke meme, hopefully he is replaced by the 10th Civ game...
Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
Um, you just subtracted 3 points from each of them. You only can subtract 3 from one of them....
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Egyptians 12 (15-3) Cleo is fine
Indians 37 (36+1) the subcontinent has less Civs. more variety brings the second leader for India
How is the leader who lost the entire empire to Romans "fine"?
Egyptians 12-3=9 - Cleo is not fine, but at least she actually ruled her country.
Indians 37+1=38 - With Gandhi never being an actual ruler of India, I'd welcome someone new. Indian history is very long, so picking a good alternate leader cannot be hard.
Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
Egyptians (9-3)=6 As before, I think Manifold loves Cleopatra (especially over that Hatshepsut) 
Yes, having a Macedonian Ptolemaic ruler who lost her kingdom to the Romans to represent the entirety of ancient Egyptian history is "fine". I think since she appear less often in the games, Egypt should take second place.
Indians (38+1)=39 Gandhi nuke meme is tiring in 2017....
Yes, having a Macedonian Ptolemaic ruler who lost her kingdom to the Romans to represent the entirety of ancient Egyptian history is "fine". I think since she appear less often in the games, Egypt should take second place. Indians (38+1)=39 Gandhi nuke meme is tiring in 2017....
Guatenadian
Prince
Egyptians 8 (7+1) Lets keep this going a bit longer.
Indians 33 (36-3) Have I mentioned I would like a Mughal Civ.
How exactly is Cleopatra a celeb? She brought Egypt nearly 22 years of prosperity and stability.
Indians 33 (36-3) Have I mentioned I would like a Mughal Civ.
How exactly is Cleopatra a celeb? She brought Egypt nearly 22 years of prosperity and stability.
conorbebe
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Egyptians 5 (8 - 3) If Cleopatra was Egypt's only leader, which I very much doubt will end up being the case, it wouldn't be the end of the world for me.
Indians 34 (33 + 1) Then again, neither would Gandhi for India, but he's more than overstayed his welcome.
Indians 34 (33 + 1) Then again, neither would Gandhi for India, but he's more than overstayed his welcome.
Egyptians 5 - 3 = 2
Indians 34 + 1 = 35
Let's agree that an alternative Indian leader is an urgency that can not wait. There are many good Indian leaders to choose from, but they have gone to Gandhi only reinforces the meme's thesis.
Indians 34 + 1 = 35
Let's agree that an alternative Indian leader is an urgency that can not wait. There are many good Indian leaders to choose from, but they have gone to Gandhi only reinforces the meme's thesis.
So, let me end this thread!
Egyptians 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - Cleo isn't a good choice, and Egypt deserves a second leader...
Indians 35+1=36 - ...but someone who actually ruled India is definitely needed, as I'm sick of Gandhi reappearing just because of that nuke meme.
Egyptians 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - Cleo isn't a good choice, and Egypt deserves a second leader...
Indians 35+1=36 - ...but someone who actually ruled India is definitely needed, as I'm sick of Gandhi reappearing just because of that nuke meme.
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Guandao
Rajah of Minyue, Hlai and Langkasuka
This was a fun game!
Now Firaxis will know that some of us are sick of Nuclear Gandhi, and hopefully give us a second Indian leader...
Now Firaxis will know that some of us are sick of Nuclear Gandhi, and hopefully give us a second Indian leader...
Hey, let's keep this thread open for a while, and have a quick quiz.
So, the top 5 are:
1. Indians
2. Egyptians
3. French
4. Chinese
5. English
Let's see who do you want most as leaders for these civs. Give us one option for each, and say why.
Here is my opinion:
1. Indians - Ashoka. Reason: he ruled over almost all of India, and he does not have to be as peaceful as Gandhi, maybe he can go to one war, and then become a peaceful leader or something.
2. Egyptians - Ramesses. Reason: we already have a female leader, so Hatshepsut will have to wait, and Ramesses was Egypt's greatest Pharaoh.
3. French - Napoleon. Reason: Catherine de' Medici already represents the Ancien Regime, so we need a post-Revolution leader, and Napoleon would bring much diversity.
4. Chinese - Wu Zetian. Reason: a great option to insert another (worthy) female leader.
5. English - Aethelstan. Reason: Elizabeth won't do, because we already have a female leader, so we need to find a male leader, and Aethelstan is actually a perfect choice as he has his own capital and brings a different aspect to England, and he was actually the first ruler of what can be called "England".
So, the top 5 are:
1. Indians
2. Egyptians
3. French
4. Chinese
5. English
Let's see who do you want most as leaders for these civs. Give us one option for each, and say why.
Here is my opinion:
1. Indians - Ashoka. Reason: he ruled over almost all of India, and he does not have to be as peaceful as Gandhi, maybe he can go to one war, and then become a peaceful leader or something.
2. Egyptians - Ramesses. Reason: we already have a female leader, so Hatshepsut will have to wait, and Ramesses was Egypt's greatest Pharaoh.
3. French - Napoleon. Reason: Catherine de' Medici already represents the Ancien Regime, so we need a post-Revolution leader, and Napoleon would bring much diversity.
4. Chinese - Wu Zetian. Reason: a great option to insert another (worthy) female leader.
5. English - Aethelstan. Reason: Elizabeth won't do, because we already have a female leader, so we need to find a male leader, and Aethelstan is actually a perfect choice as he has his own capital and brings a different aspect to England, and he was actually the first ruler of what can be called "England".
1. India: Akbar since India's ability is pretty much Akbar's religious stance.
2. Egypt: Djoser. Great person and building focused Egypt. Also Egypt needs a Old or Middle Kingdom Pharaoh Can't decide if his LUA should simply be Imhotep or not.
3. France: Philip Augustus. Greatest French king of the Middle Ages. By his conquests and outmanuvering of his vassals he made Paris the cultural heart of France instead of Anjou, Normandy, Aquitaine, Gascony, etc.
4. China: Taizong. Very competent leader and brought stability and wealth to China after civil war. Much more concerned with effective and pragmatic governing than ritual, superstition or tradition.
5. England: William Pitt the Elder. England has only had one Parliamentarian as leader which for one of the countries that many of todays representative government are modeled after is a shame. Since Vicky takes up the time of Palmerston, Disraeli, and Gladstone we go back a bit further to the first William Pitt. Of course like Vicky he wants to make war on civs on other continents but only if they have cities on his home continent as well.
2. Egypt: Djoser. Great person and building focused Egypt. Also Egypt needs a Old or Middle Kingdom Pharaoh Can't decide if his LUA should simply be Imhotep or not.
3. France: Philip Augustus. Greatest French king of the Middle Ages. By his conquests and outmanuvering of his vassals he made Paris the cultural heart of France instead of Anjou, Normandy, Aquitaine, Gascony, etc.
4. China: Taizong. Very competent leader and brought stability and wealth to China after civil war. Much more concerned with effective and pragmatic governing than ritual, superstition or tradition.
5. England: William Pitt the Elder. England has only had one Parliamentarian as leader which for one of the countries that many of todays representative government are modeled after is a shame. Since Vicky takes up the time of Palmerston, Disraeli, and Gladstone we go back a bit further to the first William Pitt. Of course like Vicky he wants to make war on civs on other continents but only if they have cities on his home continent as well.
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