Elimination Thread-Returning Civ 5 Leaders

[The Kingmaker]

Ahmad al-Mansur 20
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 15
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 17
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 14
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 21
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 23+1=24 Babylon for DLC07 or XP1! Mesopotamia urgently needs a properly-depicted civ!
Oda Nobunaga 14
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 17
Pocatello 11-3=8 I would not object if he were the next to go.
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 14
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 20
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 15
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 17
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 14
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 22+1=23 - This man led a Crusade against one of the biggest cities in Europe and he succesfully sacked it. And he was in his nineties. And of course, I'd really like to see the Republic of Venice as a trade Civ again.
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 21
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 24
Oda Nobunaga 14-3=11 - No more Samurai leaders for Japan!
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 17
Pocatello 8
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 14
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 20
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 15
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 17
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15 (14+1) this time more in love please
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20 (23-3) he did not lead the crusade (is this good) he demanded, as payment for the transport of the crusaders, the plundering of the capital of that empire (this is more worse), which protect Venice for hundreds of years. Venice would never have remained independent without East Rome. Venice was an official part of the Eastern Roman empire. This was the only reason why it was not conquered by the Lombards, Francs and the HRE like the rest of Italy. The agenda of Enricos could be: He likes to pay others to go to war against his allies. Ok, this could be funny, maybe next time I vote for him
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 21
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 24
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 17
Pocatello 8
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 14
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Roman Citizen]

Ahmad al-Mansur 20
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 15
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 17
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15 (14+1) this time more in love please
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 21+1=22 I up for Maria Theresa but I'm also up for Charles V and Franz Joseph.
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 24
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 17
Pocatello 8-3=5 I have nothing against Pocatello or the Shoshone, they were a great civ in civ 5. However every here an their dog thinks someone new should take their place.
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 14
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[IgorS]

Ahmad al-Mansur 20
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 15 + 1 = 16 - Too early to downvote him.
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 17 - 3 = 14 - Enough with the Celts.
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 24
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 17
Pocatello 5
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 14
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Gabriel Sergio]

Ahmad al-Mansur 20
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 16
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 14
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24 + 1 = 25 A leader who create a 2nd largest empire in the world, and faster than roman empire.
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 24
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 17
Pocatello 5
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 14 - 3 = 11 I prefer Justinian
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[The Kingmaker]

Ahmad al-Mansur 20
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 16
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 14
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 25
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 24+1=25 Come back, Babylon!
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 17
Pocatello 5-3=2 Almost time for him to take his final bow.
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 20+1=21 - Bring him back as friendly and nice as he was in Civ V!
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 16
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 14
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 25
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 17
Pocatello 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - Pocatello, your days are numbered.
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 21
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 16
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 14
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 25
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti (17+1)=18 Given the limited number of notable Incan rulers, I wouldn't mind Pachacuti's return.
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 20-3=17 I want a different Thai ruler (like Naresuan or Narai) if Siam returns. Rammy was annoying in Civ5.
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Manifold]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18 (21-3) compared to the others and his current points
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 16
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 14
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 26 (25+1) maybe he will catch up Adam Smith
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 17
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Roman Citizen]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 16+1=17 I don't think Trajan makes Augustus unnecessary, Augustus is still one of the most important Roman
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 14
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 15-3=12 I want Hannibal or someone new for Carthage, someone we can all agree on that was real.
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 26
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 17
Sejong 21
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[IgorS]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 14 - 3 = 11 - The Celts are just a blob civ, and a poorly made one too
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 12
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 26
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 17
Sejong 21 + 1 = 22 - A great leader, who is much more interesting and influential than Wang Kon, who was for some reason leader of Korea in Civ III and IV
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Kimiimaro]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 11
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 12
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 26-3=23 - Not so fast. Mongols are always welcomed, but they are not my first choice for a new Civ, when "horse raiders" Civ is already covered by Scythians. I don't think that he should be leading.
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 9
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 17+1=18 - The fact that he was annoying in Civ V doesn't change the fact that he was one of the greatest king of Sukhotai/Siam/Thailand/Whatever. I think that Siam deserves to return and he is a decent choice for leader.
Sejong 22
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 11
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 12
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan (23+1)=24 For most of these leaders, I can envision another leader taking their place in the game. But not for the Mongols. Genghis is a Civ mainstay! Like the dreaded Gandhi...
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth (9-3)=6 He shares the first name of Norwegian leader, and would look too similar to him in-game. I want Margaret I for the leader of Denmark.
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 18
Sejong 22
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Roman Citizen]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 23
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 11
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 12-3=9 same as last time.
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 20+1=21 I like to see him return in a composited italian civ.
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 6
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 18
Sejong 22
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Morningcalm]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 23 + 1 = 24 (The fabled librarian/conqueror would make for a great in-game agenda.)
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 11
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20
Darius I 15
Dido 9
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 21
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 6 - 3 = 3 (This guy needs to be eliminated first due to his rather mixed reign)
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 18
Sejong 22
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[IgorS]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 24
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 11
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20 + 1 = 21 - No votes yet? How come?!
Darius I 15
Dido 9
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 21
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 3
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17 - 3 = 14 - Let us try something different with the Iroquois
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 18
Sejong 22
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[Guandao]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 24
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 11
Casimir III 20
Catherine 20 + 1 = 21 - No votes yet? How come?!
Darius I 15
Dido 9
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 21
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 3
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 17 - 3 = 14 - Let us try something different with the Iroquois
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 18
Sejong 22
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

Maybe people think that one leader in Civ6 named Catherine is enough, or that Cathy is too close in era to Peter the Great?

 

[God of Kings]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 24
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 11
Casimir III 20
Catherine 21
Darius I 15
Dido 9
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 21
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 24 + 1 = 25 The Mongols are among the best known steppe conquerors in all of history; they had the largest contiguous land empire in the world even thanks to him
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harald Bluetooth 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Too close to the other Harald who is already in Civ VI
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 14
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 18
Sejong 22
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18
William 22
Wu Zetian 17

 

[The Kingmaker]

Ahmad al-Mansur 18
Ashurbanipal 24
Askia 21
Augustus Caesar 17
Bismarck 21
Boudicca 11
Casimir III 20
Catherine 21
Darius I 15
Dido 9
Elizabeth 20
Enrico Dandolo 21
Gajah Mada 21
Genghis Khan 25
Gustavus Adolphus 22
Haile Selassie 20
Harun al-Rashid 21
Hiawatha 14
Isabella 20
Kamehameha 21
Maria Theresa 22
Napoleon 21
Nebuchadnezzar II 25+1=26 Going to have to keep voting for him until they bring Babylon back.
Oda Nobunaga 11
Pacal 22
Pachacuti 18
Ramesses II 20
Ramkhamhaeng 18
Sejong 22
Shaka 22
Suleiman 21
Theodora 11
Washington 18-3=15 Personally, I'd rather they brought back Lincoln instead.
William 22
Wu Zetian 17