HUSch said:
Hello
I will send 100 to Cav and 50 to Kaz, but only after eot.
This can we produce the next turns. I will tell you before, when/if we can't.
btw
Sat drafted 2 more musks in 680.
HUSch ms
Thanks HUSch, your money has been key.
But after this turn, we have steel, so our goal is met. What I'd like to do from here is a couple things, and consider this a first draft - your insight to develope our plans is appreciated.
Why not Rifling? I had stated this earlier passively to team Kaz and then learned they went Divine Right (which was mentioned to me before). But Rifling i see as one of those inevitable techs that all sides to any war get eventually, so why not get it soon so we can play around with it. What this war will come to, is a stalemate with rifling. Finally after some borders have been pushed (hopefully they get pushed) the forces involved will have gathered up enough power so that defending will have gained too much of its edge, and it'll only take the next technological breakthrough to push them some more. Unless we keep coming in overwhelming numbers which I'll bring up later. It seems that finally, sancta is heading that way (PP), so we want every turn we can get to gain as much of a head start on them.
I'll accept Economics, and you two would probably both benefit more from Free Market than Mercantilism (although I'd appreciate any revolutions to be post-Rifling). There is much to say about the GM denial and trademission money could support at least a tech's worth of research or upgrades (our "green" 5xp combat 2 pinch muskets would make quite the redcoat). And I think, although it is looking tight, we could hold on fine if we delay rifles 4 turns.
So, if all agree, let's have Kaz go Econ>RP>Rifling fueled by Cav money. MS, I think we may have plenty (if you could both give me your maintenance costs i could get it all figured out). I don't know how MS cities are suited (I guess i need to zoom in and count markets, libraries etc) but
MS can either tech Nationalism or just stock up money. Ive said nationalism before but it's probably not needed until rifling (by far the best hammer conversion, the rifle draft).
After that we, and this would benifit us a lot more than you, but we are strongly looking to Communism as the next general goal. We're setting up our workshops we'd start watermilling farms, it would more or less be exactly what we need right now. And with our golden age that we'll probably due, it looks like we can pretty well make it there if our GA ends in 24 turns as it's looking. But this sort of talk is still a good ways out.
So, let me know what you think about the research.
But on to order number 2, let me show you this graph
Now, I very well realize the relative build up of three of these civs is more of a recent phenomenon; there's still alot more turns to play. And I'm also well aware of where all civs are at and what they're capable of. MS was mentioned how they weren't at all interested in war and I understand; I think it would be ridiculous for them to build a big army to march it all the way across the world. Their cities are suited for more markets and banks and that's what MS should be doing in those cities to contribute in the most effective way.
But then there is that part of me that really wants them to say, build (in probably their outlying, helper cities) maybe like 3 galleons w/ frigates to raze the Saturn capitol. Or for them to build a little bit of a navy, and help with the sancta blockade.
I know you're doing what you're doing, MS, please forgive me. It's just human nature to always want more.
And Kaz, I might guess what you've been up to, probably building some universities and such. And don't get me wrong there either, that's exactly what we need there too. I'd love it if you were building like, the oxford university in you best science city.
Up to this point, I can easily deal with that power graph as it is right now. But at some point, Kaz is going to have to join the other 3 civs, and build up their army. As things are going now, we won't be able to push that border back far before we come to stalemate. Right now, it looks to me that Sancta is on pace for a Space Race victory. We have to change that. i mean, what good is tech when your dead.
I've been thinking more about Kaz's GS. As much as I'd love for them to let us bulb through Scientific Method on the way to Communism, I think the best thing for the immediate future is for them to use it on a golden age of their own. If this sounds remotely appealing, maybe we could push it even further - if given money we have about half but still only 1 turn left on Liberalism, maybe a switch into Free religion could get us Rifling a little faster?
Anyway, just calibrating my thoughts, get back to me when you can.
Slaze dos Cavalieros