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Aren't all bananas clones?
Evidence for creationism
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Aren't all bananas clones?
Yes, it does happen naturally and it happens for the majority of life on earth. Look up asexual reproduction and self-fertilizing plants.
No, it's because of the nature of the relationship Creationists have with their god. Their relationship with their god is what proves (to me) that the Christian faith is false.
GhostWriter16
Deity
What does this mean?
civver_764
Deity
I guess he forgot me.You're a moral relativist now?
You realize you're proving my point right?
It's kind of the definition.
*facepalm*
GhostWriter16
Deity
Nope, you can choose not to believe. Not to mention that its VERY arrogent to prove you are the highest life in the Universe.
You're a moral relativist now?
Nope, they are wrong. However, them BEING wrong DEMANDS that there is someone to declare them wrong. What is that thing? If its the law, then yes, that is reletive. I would say since God disagrees with those opinions, those opnions are by DEFINITION wrong. However, they are opinions. They can't be proven like a scientific issue, and can't be approached the same way.
Not really. You called most people in history "********." I'm not willing to QUITE draw that conclusion. All things aside, our founders were pretty intelligent people (Well, except John Adams, he was stupid.)
Not really.
*Facepalm* back to you
I choose to believe that the Earth is between seven and ten thousand years old (I think six thousand is a bit implausible, though still more so than BILLIONS) and that a worldwide flood caused most of the things that make the Earth look old. So what?
Not to mention that God created Adam and Eve mature. Who says he couldn't have done so to the rest of the world? That is a hint, not psychoness.
MobBoss
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I am incapable of showing a blind man what color is.
I think the same way about your unbelief in Charlie the Unicorn, Russel's Tea Pot, the Flying Spaghetti Monster and a whole host of other thought experiments.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Yet, if he created the world maturely, there wouldn't NEED any evidence.
Which means you then have to prove if the Bible is reliable. The normal tests are good enough for that, and the Bible passes.
Please provide examples of tests that the Bible passes. Proving it's a semi-accurate chronically of history doesn't really elevate it to the stature you are want to give it.
What "normal" tests are these? You hate bodies giving themselves their own authority, so you can't rely on the Bible here, my friend.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
One of the best evidences that give an age of about 600 years is helium. Helium is a by product of nuclear decay, so it is a good way to see how much decay has occurred. Since it is slippery, it will diffuse easily out of any substance, so it is a good way to see how much by product.
http://creation.com/helium-evidence-for-a-young-world-continues-to-confound-critics
The biggest problem with evolution is trying to explain how we got here in the first place. There is no scientific evidence on how the first cell appeared. All previous attempts to explain how it happened have failed miserably. If everything is done naturally, then there has to be an explanation of the first cell, but that has not happened. This has been an area of experimentation for many decades and no viable solution has been found, so much so that some evolutionists just side step the issue.
http://creation.com/helium-evidence-for-a-young-world-continues-to-confound-critics
The biggest problem with evolution is trying to explain how we got here in the first place. There is no scientific evidence on how the first cell appeared. All previous attempts to explain how it happened have failed miserably. If everything is done naturally, then there has to be an explanation of the first cell, but that has not happened. This has been an area of experimentation for many decades and no viable solution has been found, so much so that some evolutionists just side step the issue.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Good analogy. But what colour? The different denominations are arguing whether the colour is scarlet or crimson red. All the while other people around him are claiming the colour is not red but blue, and others still are claiming there's a whole rainbow of colours.
Really? In all those threads you participated in, you still come up with this?
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Except Jesus isnt a 'thought experiment'.
If you wanted to discuss something you feel sincere about, and I equated it with inane comparisons, how would you feel about that?
But you are enforcing why I still wont vote for atheists. Thanks!
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
GhostWriter16
Deity
*Cough, prophecy, Cough*
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Go on ...
MobBoss
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You said it was a good analogy. Does good = inane for you?
Another WTH? Seriously, I have no clue what you're talking about.
If the average age of helium is 600 years, that disproves just about everything we know about the world, including what you believe about god. If helium is 600 years old, then the universe didn't exist until 1400.
Are you trying to say the average age of helium on earth is 600 years old? Well, that'd make a lot more sense. And it's rather easy to answer. Yes, helium is a product of radioactive decay, which is continuously ongoing in the earth's interior. Helium is light enough that it can escape earth's gravitational field. As helium is made, it makes its way to the earth's surface and eventually escapes into space.
As I said, I have no clue what you're trying to say, since nothing there has an iota of relevance to creation or evolution or... anything.
The theory of evolution doesn't deal with the origin of life and how it came to be. There's no side stepping there. If I'm a biologist working with vertebrates, there's no real point for me to discuss life before the development of a notocord.
To say that the entire field of biology has sidestepped the issue is disingenuous. Of course there's no evidence, it's been destroyed -- cells very very rarely fossilize and their forerunners may not have even been capable of fossilization. I certainly have never heard of a virus fossil, but viruses obviously exist.
Except Jesus isnt a 'thought experiment'.
If you wanted to discuss something you feel sincere about, and I equated it with inane comparisons, how would you feel about that?
But you are enforcing why I still wont vote for atheists. Thanks!
I'm asking you to provide something a bit more than "my gut" as evidence. "My gut" is relevant to Jesus, Zeus and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. If you want to fall back on faith, I'm not going to stop you. Don't propose it as an answer to scientific questions though.
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