Evolution?

[Atlas14]

Care to explain? Because ad homs aren't good for any argumentation..

It would take forever to explain in detail, but I'll pick one part.

Behe attempts to point to a hole in Evolution by discussing the complexity of the human eye. Behe asserts that the human eye is composed of separate biological "parts" put together, and could not have evolved to be that way. He suggests that every part of the eye is necessary for it to function properly, and thus it could not have evolved because that would mean stages of the eye where parts are clearly not present, resulting in a non-functional "eye". Behe never even considered the fact that the eye could evolve in complexity, from very simple to more complex. For a simple eye on a simple organism, the more complex parts are not even needed for survival. Behe failed make such an analysis, and attempted to explain Intelligent Design as the only possible explanation for the existance of the human eye.

 

[theimmortal1]

I understand your point, but thats no proof that Darwinian evolution shows how complex parts form. You are merely picking one specific item and attempting to disprove it. That doesn't refute the argument as a whole. What about flagella for example?

 

[Atlas14]

I understand your point, but thats no proof that Darwinian evolution shows how complex parts form. You are merely picking one specific item and attempting to disprove it. That doesn't refute the argument as a whole. What about flagella for example?

What about it?

Complex parts form by cell differentiation, and when parts are favorable to an organism's survival, the are passed along via DNA. It is actually simple biology really.

 

[warpus]

I don't like the notion that I descended from an ape.

I don't like the notion that I came from 1 sperm and 1 egg, but my feelings aren't going to change reality, and neither are yours.

All posts (in english) on this forum are written in the same 26 letters (not including smilies, quotation marks, and pictures), but that does not neccesarily mean they all had a common ancestor.

That's because we all agreed to use these symbols. Somehow I don't think all life on this planet agreed to use this specific type of DNA There must another reason for that.

 

[Truronian]

Evolution is by far and away the most plausible explaination for the biodiversity around us, in the same way that gravity is the most plausible explaination for falling to the ground after jumping out a plane.

 

[Chandrasekhar]

Bump, so this will hopefully catch some of the sparking debates on evolution that I've noticed at the top of the page.

 

[Maniacal]

CRUD. I misread the question. Can an admin pelase remvoe my vote?

I beleive in the Theory of Evolution and don't disagree with it.

 

[Ball Lightning]

None of the above. (agreement with the theory of evolution).
If you believe anything else, you haven't read the truth, you've just heard about dodgy TV shows which don't like evolution.

 

[Civicide]

Reading through this and a few other religiously-themed posts reinforces to me what a curious psychological mindset is required of an Evolution Denier. It's one thing to be ignorant of what the Theory of Evolution actually says, and what evidence supports it, to the point where one can believe that antievolution arguments have merit. But in this day and age of free and simple information, I have a hard time believing that anyone savvy enough to debate with others on an Internet Message Board could remain so ignorant of science without that ignorance being willful in nature. It's like there's a deep-seated desire to believe that humanity is "special" because it was created specially by God in His image, and that the Theory of Evolution is completely incompatible with that belief. I would think that more people would simply accept that humanity is special because of our intelligence and capacity for self-awareness. I'm reminded of a quote from the late and deeply missed Douglas Adams:

"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?"

 

[Sims2789]

It is plausible that life on Earth evolved from two or more distinct, original organism; although all life on Earth have much in common, it's possible that two or separate organisms came to be independent of each other and have modern descendants.

 

[warpus]

It is plausible that life on Earth evolved from two or more distinct, original organism; although all life on Earth have much in common, it's possible that two or separate organisms came to be independent of each other and have modern descendants.

AFAIK all life on this planet we've discovered uses DNA that is 'built' the same way.

 

[StarWorms]

Im saying that there were probably several ancestors. But not everyone is related to the same ansestoral ancient bacterium.

I think that's very unlikely. That would assume that the possibility of life being created from macromolecules would be very high.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

All posts (in english) on this forum are written in the same 26 letters (not including smilies, quotation marks, and pictures), but that does not neccesarily mean they all had a common ancestor.

All posts are obviously written by humans who have a common ancestor. Some call him Adam, and for others it is just a nameless ape.
The common ancestor of the post would be whoever came up with the latin alphabet...

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

We have some science supporting us. Your ownly evidence is that ours is a bit unlikely. You have nothing else to back it with.

 

[Atlas14]

We have some science supporting us. Your ownly evidence is that ours is a bit unlikely. You have nothing else to back it with.

Are you saying you believe in Creationism/Intelligent Design?

 

[AL_DA_GREAT]

Are you saying you believe in Creationism/Intelligent Design?

NO! extreme opposite.

 

[Atlas14]

NO! extreme opposite.

Oh, sorry. Thats much better.

 

[mrtn]

I don't like the notion that I came from 1 sperm and 1 egg, but my feelings aren't going to change reality, and neither are yours.
...

Not only that, you come from your parents doing the dirty!

 

[Arachnaphobia]

I reckon the theory of evolution is probably right.

And I hear a lot about talk (just generally) of 'a missing link', what about Wayne Rooney?

 

[Yuri2356]

I reckon the theory of evolution is probably right.

And I hear a lot about talk (just generally) of 'a missing link', what about Wayne Rooney?

That's just the opposition to the theory whining about a supposed lack of fossils to connect humans to other primates. Whenever one is found that fits into the gap, they just say it opens two more holes. (That is, if they don't simply deny that the it even fits the gap)