You can always quit you know.
I quit well before you posted that. You were being:
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Inconsistent: you complain about lawyers as being a waste of money, then they became essential to your scheme.
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Illogical: prison doesn't currently stop people from reoffending, so let's just set them free to reoffend again at will, with NO constraints whatsoever.
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Ignoring questions: so many now, gonna have to catch up.
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Disregarding where others were coming from: let's forget this, because you like to think that cyberspace allows us freedom from courtesy in conversation.
You may find dealing with such behaviour to be fun, but I don't.
And I think there might be something in your eye or you're trying to be kinky, cos you keep winking at me all the time. Weird.
betazed said:
You tell me their purpose! Because I am at a loss.
I notice you just
ignored El Mach's post right beneath yours. Here it is again:
El_Machinae said:
In my opinion, the purpose of the Criminal Justice system is to reduce the incidence and severity of crime. It does this in three (sometimes competing) ways. It gets the authority to remove rights from citizens under the principles of self-defence.
The three methods of reducing crime are:
- as a deterrence: the threat of punishment will stop some people from committing a crime. On a personal note, this often works for me, and is one reason why I don't break some laws
- for rehabilitation: if a criminal can gain skills or motivation required to no longer be a criminal, then rehabilitation will reduce the likelihood of rehabilitation. Those who advocate harsh punishments for criminals often have rehabilitation as a goal ("teach them that crime doesn't pay")
- for protection: some people are dangerous, and if they are not incarcerated, they will attack or harm society. While they are locked up, their power to harm is reduced. Even if they cannot be deterred or rehabilitated, there is value in locking them up.
Quite right sir!
betazed said:
if their purpose was to make sure that there are no repeat offenders then they are a miserable failure (look at statistics).
You are throwing the baby out with the bath water. Because some fail through the poorer parts of the system and reoffend, let's chuck the system out?
Illogical. What about increasing the standard of rehabilitation programmes that do work? Surely that's better than doing
absolutely nothing to rehabilitate at all.
What about the successful rehabilitation cases? What about the protection offered to the public during their sentence? What about deterring others from doing the same?
Your masterplan contains none of this whatsoever. It's a shambles.
Here's a study a friend of mine was involved with about reoffending. You'll see that prisons need not be darkened cells that leave people to stew. They can both protect the public from people who have seriously renegged on their social contracts with others AND bring about a 'reform' in individuals, through a number of strategies.
Once more, your plan contains none of this whatsoever.
