"Fall Patch" announced

[fat_tonle]

Maybe a DLC will be released in tandem. Why have such an extensive patch and no DLC?

 

[apocalypse105]

This is really anoying I have vacation and want to play a game of civ 5 but I can't because knowwhen the patch comes because it will ruin my save game

 

[Louis XXIV]

Maybe a DLC will be released in tandem. Why have such an extensive patch and no DLC?

It's possible, but I suspect that means a November release for the patch. Otherwise, we would have heard something about DLC by now (even if a rumor by a German guy).

 

[blackcatatonic]

This is really anoying I have vacation and want to play a game of civ 5 but I can't because knowwhen the patch comes because it will ruin my save game

Easily solved - just start a game and keep playing until it's finished. And check the forum before you open Steam every day to make sure the patch hasn't come out yet.

 

[Jabberwockxeno]

-With making deals, AIs will notify you when they're not willing to give enough on their side to make the deal work. This addresses some issues where you ask an AI to propose a deal and they say "we can't make a deal" and then you propose a lop-sided deal and they accept it. They will say "we aren't willing to give you enough to make this a fair trade."

-Promotion balance change: make the +200% vs. Cities promotion go away on upgrade.

Does this mean I can't gift stuff to the AI for free anymore?

And am I understanding the latter part correctly that if a unit earns that promotion, then it's upgraded to a higher tech one, it no longer has that promotion?

 

[Rooftrellen]

Does this mean I can't gift stuff to the AI for free anymore?

You can, but if you put up a huge city in a trade and they have one city with no lux, no gold, etc., and you ask what they will give for it, they should tell you that they won't be able to offer enough to make the deal work, though if they could, they would be interested in the city.

Compare that to a hostile civ on the verge of war, when you offer a 1 to 1 deal on a lux. Then you will be told that civ isn't interested in the trade, probably that it's no where close to a fair offer.

It should just clarify diplomacy, but they will still take unbalanced deals in their favor.

 

[anandus]

It's possible, but I suspect that means a November release for the patch. Otherwise, we would have heard something about DLC by now (even if a rumor by a German guy).

Mind you, the German guy only knew the DLC up until Denmark or Korea.

But I also assume somewhere in november, although I do hope it's before november 24th, as I have a civ LAN-weekend planned.

And that's really freaky: I have a civ LAN-weekend two or three times a year and it almost always coincides with a patch.

 

[animalguy]

Does this mean I can't gift stuff to the AI for free anymore?

And am I understanding the latter part correctly that if a unit earns that promotion, then it's upgraded to a higher tech one, it no longer has that promotion?

The promotion is refering to the Hwacha, which at the moment is currently bugged when upgrade from a catapult (in theory it should not reccive the +200% against cities but currently it is)

 

[Louis XXIV]

Mind you, the German guy only knew the DLC up until Denmark or Korea.

He knew it up to Korea, which includes the 7 Wonders DLC. Since those were the last ones, I'd say he was up to date.

 

[anandus]

He knew it up to Korea, which includes the 7 Wonders DLC. Since those were the last ones, I'd say he was up to date.

G&K is the last DLC and he didn't say anything about that.

 

[Zilkin]

G&K is the last DLC and he didn't say anything about that.

You mean it has been confirmed that there wont be 2nd(or 3rd) expansion for Civ5?

 

[Louis XXIV]

G&K is the last DLC and he didn't say anything about that.

Yeah, but there's a difference between standalone DLC and an expansion pack that makes it not quite comparable.

 

[headcase]

You mean it has been confirmed that there wont be 2nd(or 3rd) expansion for Civ5?

In this case "last" meant "latest" (so far).

 

[woodshadows]

maybe in the third expansion they'll make espionage more enjoyable. espionage currently - get free techs every now and then/have your citystates couped from you every turn, or try to coup a city state yourself and spin the wheel of luck to find out whether you win a free city state or not. Fun?

 

[Gort]

I really see espionage as a technological "rubber band" mechanic. It's there so you don't get civs stuck in the medieval era next to civs in the atomic era.

 

[Civsassin]

I really see espionage as a technological "rubber band" mechanic. It's there so you don't get civs stuck in the medieval era next to civs in the atomic era.

Espionage provides another decision point. Don't like coups, put your spies in your favored CSs. Like to steak technolgy, put your spies in other civs capitals. It's up to you how you use them. I think the espionage mechanic is much preferable to that of CiIV.

 

[Sherlock]

Klytus, I'm bored.

Bored with CiV. I think maybe 200 hours is enough. I won't play again till the patch, and I'll be interested to see how that goes.

But I will not play another game with that d*mn spinning screen bug.

 

[Rooftrellen]

Espionage provides another decision point. Don't like coups, put your spies in your favored CSs. Like to steak technolgy, put your spies in other civs capitals. It's up to you how you use them. I think the espionage mechanic is much preferable to that of CiIV.

The espionage mechanic in vanilla Civ5 is more enjoyable than the espionage mechanic in Civ4.

 

[Socratatus]

The espionage mechanic in vanilla Civ5 is more enjoyable than the espionage mechanic in Civ4.

Totally disagree. I loved the espionage mechanic in Civ4, it was much more expansive and realistic too. You can hardly do anything in espionage in Civ5. The ONLY good part of it is you can pass details to other Civs if you want.

 

[Nyanko]

Totally disagree. I loved the espionage mechanic in Civ4, it was much more expansive and realistic too. You can hardly do anything in espionage in Civ5. The ONLY good part of it is you can pass details to other Civs if you want.

Your water supply has been poisoned.... gez how many times must my water supply be poisoned, why cant I build a cover over it, or better yet, hire some guards? It was one of the greatest turnoffs for Civ 4 for me, the espionage system... The espionage system in Civ 5 is far less annoying