Fast MGE Succession #3

[Az]

hum...guys sorry I'll post it tomorow morning (my time : GR +2)

 

[Az]

hum sorry guys I'll post it tomorw morning
Time zone : GR +2

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[TheViking]

Az - what's up ? Any news of wars and wonders from our great empire ?

TheViking

 

[Yulianka]

Can I join in your game?

 

[Belisarius]

Originally posted by Yulianka:
Can I join in your game?

Welcome to the game you can have your go right after Az if you wish. We are doing 10 turns each then writing up our story in the forum and attaching the save game file. Download TheVikings last attachment to have a sneek peak at our CivFanatic world.

 

[Belisarius]

Originally posted by Az:
hum sorry guys I'll post it tomorw morning
Time zone : GR +2

How's it going Az? Let us know if you're having probs.

 

[TheViking]

Originally posted by Yulianka:
Can I join in your game?

Yes, you are welcome to join our game. We really need more players. Since nothing has been heard from Az for some time and there is supposed to be a time limit of 3 days to finish one's round (Az has had the game for 6 days now) just download the game and play 10 turns. Az can join us again in the next round if interested.

The game is attached to my message from July 27, it's at: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/TheViking/Co_a1650.zip

Let us know if you decide to join the game. Then Belisarius would play following you.

And BTW more players are welcome to join us !

TheViking

 

[Az]

Guys look...

I really couldn't play all these days

As far as Ylianka is conserned I'm the one who sent him here. But he doesn't want to play anymore.

So despite my bad behavior

I took the game and played it now...

Hope you still want me

Can I post it?

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[TheViking]

Originally posted by Az:
Hope you still want me <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif" border=0>

Can I post it?

Yes of course - post it.

TheViking


[This message has been edited by TheViking (edited August 04, 2001).]

 

[Az]

okidoki....

And sorry again

Viking! Especially about the tireme south of Rome!

Az2 decided that the empire hasn't enough population. We will need more settlers to improve terain arrond existing cities. Those will preferably be built by our "12-sized cities since they can't grow yet. And of course AQUEDUCTS!!!!!
And one more thing...THE ROMANS HAVE DEMOCRATY SO WHY ARE WE LOOSING TIME TRYING TO DISCOVER IT?????

1660:
-Oops! A crusader reaches "Fort Viking" (The place between Rome and Veii

) Oh but I forgot that the Roman are our "friends". Do you think I should bribe it? 350gold....
Nahhh....
-A settler is heading for the Glacier square south of Persepolis. No I'm not crazy. The city will get four special ressources and that's very good. And when we disover Explosives this might be one great city..
-Rushbuiling aqueduct in Cornmaster as city Mayor predicts that city will grow biger in the next years and the existing water facilities won't be suffecient.
-Tireme unloads on square (mountain) under the hated-zulu city of Hlobane!
Inteligence reports that local government is in panic as they are trying to recruit citizens by force and no one is willing to join!

1670
MY God!
-Zulus and Romans sign a secret alliance against the CivFanatics
-Hloban sends a catapult to attack our Muskets. Muskets become Vet!!!!

Now the bad news

-Zulus discover Metalurgy
-Romans get Metalurgy from the Zulus
-Mongols discover Busiris
-Romans abandon Statue of liberty.

Hmm....Let's show'em what the Civfanatics are capable of doin'!

-Diplo from Ravena moves one square towards Cumae.
-Settlers start building fortress in "Fort Viking."
-Settlers start building fortress in "Fort Az" (The square south of Hlobane

)

1680
-3 Crusaders die trying to take "Fort Viking."
-1 knight dies in the pathetic Zulu attack upon "Fort Az"
-Mongols land near CivFanatics.com. One Catapult and one settler unit. Perfect! (Catapult will be killed imediatelly and settler will be watched after until he builds a nice city which will be bribed)

-Rush-B. Muskets in Ravena
-Three Settlers built
-Rush-B in Busiris

1690
-2 knights die in ouside "Fort Az". Situation is getting difficult as Settler seems to have problems finishing the fortifications work.

-Diplo from Ravena steals advance on the next turn

1700
Oh no....ouff...
Canon just attacked "Fort Az" and it's exhausted defenders were victorious! Unbelievable!
When news arrived in Civfanatics.com crouds went in the streets to celebrate the event.
However military officials are sceptical about keeping "Fort Az" or abandoning it since fortifications are not ready yet

-Diplo arriving in Cumae steals.......................Nïïï! Bridge Building.

-One Cat. and one Musket land near the Mongol city of Bokhara

-And now the big decision...
Should "Fort Az" be abandoned or not?
After a week of talks between the military officials of Civfanatics marshall GenghisK himself decides that the troops will stay!
After getting aproval from the Consul we decide to move on...

1710
AI moves...
Bokhara troops are ready to make a full range attack upon the unfortified intruders whish are camping on the mountains next to the city...
WOW!
4 Knights and one Cantapult weren't enought to drive our troops away!

And now the Zulus....
Nothing! The Zulus didn't even try to attack! "Fort Az" is saved!


-Victorious Musketeers and Non-vet Catapult are waiting outside Bokhara...
Attack is decided...
VICTORY!!!!!
Our Catapult destroys the sole defender of the city!
The Glorious Musketeer regiment is eady to tale the city!
CITY OF BOKHARA TAKEN BY THE TROOPS OF GENERAL CIRCEE ON THE 4th of August 1710!
(256 gold, metalurgy taken)
Amazed Mongols ask for a cease fire which is granted.
Aaaaaargh! Senate forces Consul to sign a Peace Threaty.
Bokhara renamed Circ?eville (Circ?e is Circee's name on other boards) in honour of the general to whom we owe this great victory.
-Wales builds Explorer who heads east in order to explore a new continent which will be colonised. First settlers will arive from "Fort Viking" where they have finished their work.

1720
AI moves...
-New Zulu attack upon "Fort Az" which is now properly fortified.

-Musket from Ravena moves towards Cumae
-Disorder in Circ?eville (former Bokhara) ends. New Mayor (Circ?e) promises prosperous years and to call back most soldiers from the streets replacing them by Municipal Police.
-We have ALOT of MONEY!

1730:
AI mo...
Noooooooooooooooo!
Zulus land near Busiris and take it after killing the Musket that defended it whith a Knight!

-No problem! Rush-B diplo in Circ?eville!
-City of Marshall GenghisK founded west of "Fort Az".
-New Fort founded north of Cumae! General Iroquois is apointed to keep " Fort Fanatic" untill reinforcements arrive to take the city.

1740
Ai moves....

-First attack on " Fort Fanatic". Muskets still non-vet.
-Isandwalanna (or whatever) builds Adam Smith.

-Rush building 2 Aqueducts, 1 Harbour
-Settlers everywere continue improving terrain

1950
Romans offer a cease fire to our "Pathetic empire"
Our official anwswer:

My answer to Livia (personally)

(sorry guys I couldn't resist)

-King R. boosted by a caravan.

1952
-Zulus attack "Fort Az" with 2 knights
-Romans attack "Fort Viking" (1 Crusader) and "Fanatic Fort" (1 Catapult)
-Zulus discover Navigation! How nice! I had put two diplos in the tireme heading for Bisiris from Circ?eville! (the first one to steal, the second to conquer AND steal!)

-Synchronicity builds KRC! Attention! Polution!
-Actually I'm listening to a song from Lynyrd Skynyrd called Sweet Home Alabama (you know it don't you?) so...new city founded...
"Sweet Home CivFanatics"!
(SweetHomeC.Fan.)
-Reinforcements arrive in "Fort Az"!
(1 Cannon)

1754

-Tireme from Circ?eville reaches the shores of Busiris!
-First diplo takes Navigation!
-Second diplo TAKES THE CITY for 147 gold! He also takes Chivalry.
In fact temporarily loosing the city to the Zulus was good for us!
-Elvis P changes to Magellan's

Ooops!
Sorry guys!
I did one more turn! Really sorry. It's because I was really getting excited with the game and because I had forgotten the new 10 turns limit!

some notes...

Well if you have read well what I wrote you know what my plans are...

New cities and "forts" founded or occupied during Az2 reign:

"Fort Viking" is the place between Rome and Veii
"Fort Az" is the square south of Hlobane
" Fort Fanatic" is north of Cumae.

-Circ?eville is former Bokhara which we took to the Mongols
-Marshall GenghisK is situated west of "Fort Az".
-SweetHomeC.Fan. is south of "Fort Viking"

>>>and Busiris was lost but finally Liberated

 

[Az]

E-mail with saved game send to The <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/viking.gif" border=0> and Belisarius.

BTW guys I think we should discuss more about choices and strategies of the other players...
Express our opinion, give ideas, etc...

It would make it more interesting...
So Viking even if it's not your turn you could talk about it and same thing for Belissarius... <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif" border=0>

What do you think?

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[This message has been edited by Az (edited August 05, 2001).]

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Az...you appear in your write-up to have discovered time-travel!

 

[TheViking]

Originally posted by Az:
E-mail with saved game send to The <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/viking.gif" border=0> and Belisarius.

BTW guys I think we should discuss more about choices and strategies of the other players...
Express our opinion, give ideas, etc...

It would make it more interesting...
So Viking even if it's not your turn you could talk about it and same thing for Belissarius... <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif" border=0>

What do you think?

Two extreme strategies:

(1) The quick and dirty win: Fundamentalism ASAP and then flood everyone (first the Romans and Mongols) with lots and lots of crusaders and diplomats.

(2) Democracy/perfectionst strategy, focus on becoming #1 in science and infrastructure and head for a spaceship win (our continent should probably be cleared of any troublemakers like the Romans though).

This could also be combined by oscillating between Fundy/Demo/Commie (veteran spies). This is the fun way IMO if we don't necessarily want a very quick win via fundy (using tanks against primitive units is fun <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif" border=0>).

From a military standpoint, the Romans are very easy to conquer, just fill Fort Viking (thanks for that name Az !) with crusaders/diplomats (5-10 of each), destroy Rome's city walls and take it, then bribe most of the remaining cities. The Mongol capital should also be easy to take but beware: The Mongols might attempt to take Bokhara back by bribing it.

BTW I didn't receive the game via email but that's OK, I saw from the log what has happened (a lot, things are clearly heating up so I'm not surprised you accidentally played 11 turns).

TheViking

PS Needless to say the one who's playing his turns should feel free to completely ignore any suggestions from his co-players <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gif" border=0>).

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[This message has been edited by TheViking (edited August 05, 2001).]

 

[Belisarius]

Originally posted by Az:
E-mail with saved game send to The <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/viking.gif" border=0> and Belisarius.

BTW guys I think we should discuss more about choices and strategies of the other players...
Express our opinion, give ideas, etc...

It would make it more interesting...
So Viking even if it's not your turn you could talk about it and same thing for Belissarius... <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif" border=0>

What do you think?

Yes I think you are right it makes it more interesting.

I got your email. The attachment came as a DAT file. I loaded it into a hex editor and saved it out as a SAV file but it crashes Civ2 when I try and load it. Can you try sending it to me again using the same method you used for the 1400AD save.

 

[Az]

oh no!

I'm leaving right now!
You should have said it earlier....

I can't do anything now I'll loose the Ferry!

I'll be back in 5 dauys

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[TheViking]

Originally posted by Belisarius:
Yes I think you are right it makes it more interesting.

I got your email. The attachment came as a DAT file. I loaded it into a hex editor and saved it out as a SAV file but it crashes Civ2 when I try and load it. Can you try sending it to me again using the same method you used for the 1400AD save.

Since Az is leaving for a few days I'd be interested in looking at his DAT file but then you'd have to email it to me or attach it to a message here - I don't have it.

TheViking

 

[Belisarius]

Originally posted by TheViking:
Since Az is leaving for a few days I'd be interested in looking at his DAT file but then you'd have to email it to me or attach it to a message here - I don't have it.

TheViking

I am at work now but I will send you the file when I get home this evening.

 

[TheViking]

Belisarius - any news ? Were you able to read the version of Az's file I sent you ?

TheViking

 

[Belisarius]

Thankyou TheViking. I was able to open your sav file. I have email you back the results and also attached here.

1754AD (0) We have 25 cities with 7.56 million people and 2,312 gold. Tax 80%, Lux 20% and Science 0%. Things are looking good so my only change is to rush build four Diplomats.

1756AD (1) Zulus and Greeks sign pact against us. We fortify a Crusader in Fort Fanatic. Diplomats from Ravenna and Pithom march towards Cumae. Zulus try to blackmail us for 1,000 gold which we reject so War continues. Our Cannon attacks Hlobane but is destroyed. Zulu Crusader approaches M/all GenghisK so we rush build Musketeers. We will rush build city walls next.

1758AD (2) Romans gain Navigation from Zulus. Zulus destroy Diplomat near Circ?eville. We incite revolt in Roman city of Pompeii for 896 gold. Gain 108 gold and Democracy. Switch Elvis P to building Statue of Liberty and use a caravan to help build it.

1760AD (3) Zulus bribe Musketeer in Fort AZ. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/frown.gif" border=0> Caravan completes Statue of Liberty in Elvis P. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gif" border=0>

1762AD (4) Establish embassy with Mongols. Mongols have 5 cities with Capital city Karakorum. Zulus change to Democracy. We revolt to change to Fundamentalism. Under The Republic 80% tax gives 361 gold minus 82 gold support (361/82). We will do much better under Fundamentalism. Pithom defeats Barbarian Elephant attack. This is the first of waves of barbarians which come in from the empty land to the east of Pithom.

1764AD (5) Musketeer in M/all GenghisK destroys attacking Zulu Crusader and becomes veteran. Veteran Cannon in Circ?eville destroys attacking Zulu Crusader. Our government becomes Fundamentalist and 80% tax gives 543 gold less 59 gold support. We are 205 gold better of and also have 20% Science. Incite revolt of Roman city of Pisea for 364 gold, plunder 134 gold and gain Economics. Incite revolt of Neapolis for 336 gold and plunder 54 gold.

1766AD (6) Romans gain Mathematics from Zulus. Musketeer in Pompeii destroys Roman Cannon and becomes veteran. Build city of Adder between Pithom and Ravenna.

1768AD (7) Mongols sneak attack Circ?eville and destroy Cannon. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/mad.gif" border=0> We incite revolt in Roman city of Cumae for 1568 gold. Plunder 143 gold. Find Roman city of Hispalis east of Neapolis. We have now located all the Roman cities. Veteran Cannon in M/all GenghisK destroys Zulu Cannon.

1770AD (8) Mongols capturer Circ?eville. I will bribe it back next turn but decide to finish off Romans before dealing with the Mongols. Build city of New Orleans. Veteran Cannon in M/all GenghisK destroys another Zulu Cannon.

1772AD (9) Romans develop Conscription. We bribe back Circ?eville and gain University and Crusader. Veteran Cannon in M/all GenghisK destroys another Zulu Cannon. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/rocketq3.gif" border=0> This is getting to be a habit. Rush build Barracks in M/all GenghisK. Incite revolt in Hispalis for 592 gold. Plunder 140 gold and gain Conscription. Leo's upgrades Musketeers to Riflemen.

1774AD (10) Thucydides lists most powerful nations as 1st Civfanatics , 2nd Zulus, 3rd Mongols, 4th Romans with the Greeks not mentioned. <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/avatar.gif" border=0> Build city of Nashville east of Elvis P. Build city of Brum east of Asyut. Crusader near Pithom is promoted to veteran for destroying barbarian Elephant. Incite revolt in Veii for 994 gold. Plunder 114 gold.

We now have 35 cities (+10), 9.23 million population (+1.67million), and 213 gold (-2,099). We have completed the Statue of Liberty. Magellan's Expedition is 188 out of 400 (188/400). The Romans are down to 2 cities and the Mongols only have 5. I haven't spotted the Greeks yet but they will only have 1 or 2 cities. The Zulus have 9 cities.

A Diplomat escorted by Riflemen is near Antium so bribing that is no problem. Fortified west of Rome are 3 Riflemen, 1 Crusader and 1 Diplomat. A Rifleman and Musketeer are fortified east of Rome.

There are 4 Caravels between Hispalis and M/all GenghisK getting ready to create a ship chain to enable an attack on the Zulus.

We are number one in Science and are about 1/2 way to Physics. This will open up Magnetism, Steam Engines and then Railroad.

The loss off Fort Az was a disappointment but the slaughter of Zulu forces on the walls of Marshall GenghisK partly made up for it. The sneak attack by the Mongols on Circ?eville could not be properly dealt with then but the time is now ready with the Romans nearly eliminated.

We can now either go for conquest or think about switching to Democracy and aiming for a Spaceship win..

[This message has been edited by Belisarius (edited August 11, 2001).]

 

[TrailblazingScot]

Can you e-mail the game to me on tuesday (I can do my turn on early morning wednesday!).

The kitten RETURNS! AZ! also can you try and get me back into the succession game 5.