Female snipers

Cryptic_Snow

Cryptic_Snow

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Watching C-SPAN this morning on the telly and they purposed the question, "Should women be allowed to serve in the military?" I was shocked how ignorant the callers were concerning history and the role of female military personal, especially female snipers during WW II. Most of the callers voiced concerns about women not being able to carry heavy packs and their physical weakness. I'll tell you one thing, soldiers weighted down with heavy packs make for easy targets to these female snipers.

Lyudmila Pavlichenko - 309 Confirmed Kills, including 36 snipers

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Roza Shanina - 54 Confirmed kills, including 12 snipers

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Ziba Ganiyeva - 21 Confirmed Kills

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Yelizaveta Mironova - 34 Confirmed Kills

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Lidiya Gudovantseva - 76 Confirmed Kills

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Maria Aleksejevna Koskina - 80 Confirmed Kills

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So strong women are found in the glorious worker's paradise of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and not the decadent, imperialist, bourgoeis capitalist West?
 
Ajidica said:
So strong women are found in the glorious worker's paradise of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and not the decadent, imperialist, bourgoeis capitalist West?
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That's about right (partly because the bourgeois West keeps thinking of women as the fairer sex, of course).
 
Woman Power

BTW What a strange question for CSPAN to ask since women have been serving in the armed forces for decades now, progressively moving closer and closer to the frontline with each war the US gets involved in.

Did the callers just not know that or did they want that policy changed?
 
how is it that all the soviet women snipers were hawt? coincidence or evidence of sound soviet recruiting policies?
 
Ew, snipers. Even the women among them were prima donnas.
 
Masada said:
how is it that all the soviet women snipers were hawt? coincidence or evidence of sound soviet recruiting policies?
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Most Russian women are hawt till they turn 40. (which applies to most women from many other nationalities btw)
 
i wasn't being serious btw.
 
Didn't the Soviets use woment throughout the entire army in WWII? I know the snipers were much publicised and was viewed as more suitable (less brute strength needed with mroe focus on patience and deliberation).
 
say1988 said:
Didn't the Soviets use woment throughout the entire army in WWII? I know the snipers were much publicised and was viewed as more suitable (less brute strength needed with mroe focus on patience and deliberation).
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AFAIK, mostly as medics and also in communication and anti-aircraft divisions. Sometimes as snipers or pilots and much less in infantry and armored divisions. I recently read about woman who served as tank commander on T-34 - she was probably the only one in entire army.
 
How'd that happen? She just hop into a tank one day and start giving orders? (I'm not joking: it's a distinct possibility).
 
ı would rather say two but can not prove it in either way ... Do you have a name for your example ?

Cross posting , the question was meant for post#14 .
 
Masada said:
How'd that happen? She just hop into a tank one day and start giving orders? (I'm not joking: it's a distinct possibility).
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r16 said:
ı would rather say two but can not prove it in either way ... Do you have a name for your example ?

Cross posting , the question was meant for post#14 .
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Nina Bondar' (Нина Бондарь, there is no proper English transliteration)

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She was a pilot in the beginning of war, but got wounded and decommissioned. In the hospital, she was offered to become a medic or traffic regulator, but refused and eventually sent a collective letter with the group of other people to Stalin, asking to accept them in tank academy. It was against rules for women, but letter was signed because it wasn't clear from her last name that she was woman (unlike with most of Russian surnames).

She was a commander of T-34, participated in Kursk battle. Was awarded with orders of Suvorov, Bogdan Khmelnitsky, Red Banner and orders of Patriotic War 1-st and 2-nd degrees.
 
That's awesome. She killed Nazis and looked stylish :love:
 
The Soviets were notorious for shall we say "fudging" on certain facts.
Take a look at the Katyn massacre they blamed that on the Germans for
decades. Or the Holomodor where they killed 10 million Ukrainians and
denied it ever took place. The stories of glorious female snipers fighting
for the the people should be taken with a massive grain of salt to put it mildly.
 
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