Filling in the trait-combination holes

[SkyknightXi]

When/if Firaxis crafts a second expansion, I'm hoping that they'll get closer to what the original iteration had--nearly every set of two traits represented (Industrious/Philosophical was rescinded for balance reasons--I can see how that might lead to Great People overreach--and Creative/Organized probably WOULD have been Sumer's leader if Firaxis had had time to get it in). Right now, though...

Granted, this may be in part because the trait combination I *really* want (Philosophical/Protective) is nowhere to be seen. The point remains, though--this is something the modpacks could easily deal with. The problem is going to be figuring out which leaders should have which traits...

First of all, the table of characteristics, with the Warlords-extant entries filled in...

Aggressive/Charismatic
Aggressive/Creative--Kublai Khan
Aggressive/Expansive--Shaka
Aggressive/Financial--Ragnar
Aggressive/Imperialistc--Genghis Khan
Aggressive/Industrious--Stalin
Aggressive/Organized
Aggressive/Philosophical--Alexander
Aggressive/Protective--Tokugawa
Aggressive/Spiritual--Montezuma
Charismatic/Creative
Charismatic/Expansive--Washington
Charismatic/Financial--Hannibal
Charismatic/Imperialistc--Cyrus
Charismatic/Industrious
Charismatic/Organized--Napoleon
Charismatic/Philosophical
Charismatic/Protective--Churchill
Charismatic/Spiritual--Brennus
Creative/Expansive
Creative/Financial
Creative/Imperialistc--Catherine
Creative/Industrious--Louis XIV
Creative/Organized--Augustus
Creative/Philosophical
Creative/Protective
Creative/Spiritual--Hatshepsut
Expansive/Financial
Expansive/Imperialistc
Expansive/Industrious--Bismarck
Expansive/Organized--Mehmed II
Expansive/Philosophical--Peter
Expansive/Protective--Mao Zedong
Expansive/Spiritual--Isabella
Financial/Imperialistc--Victoria
Financial/Industrious--Huayna Capac
Financial/Organized
Financial/Philosophical--Elizabeth
Financial/Protective--Wang Kon
Financial/Spiritual--Mansa Musa
Imperialistic/Industrious
Imperialistic/Organized--Julius Caesar
Imperialistic/Philosophical
Imperialistic/Protective
Imperialistic/Spiritual
Industrious/Organized--Roosevelt
Industrious/Philosophical--INTERDICTED
Industrious/Protective--Qin Shi Huang
Industrious/Spiritual--Ramesses II
Organized/Philosophical--Frederick
Organized/Protective
Organized/Spiritual--Asoka
Philosophical/Protective
Philosophical/Spiritual--Gandhi
Protective/Spiritual--Saladin

Now we need to figure out who'd FIT in there. I'm having trouble thinking of additional civilizations to add in (Iroquois, Sumer, and Songhai are all that spring to mind--and Songhai might impinge on Mali). Additional LEADERS, however...Here's who spring to mind...

Japan: Shotoku
Korea: Seong
Celts: Boadicea (well, if they could use Hannibal for Carthage...)
Rome: Junius Brutus (or, if you prefer, someone else from Rome's republican days)
America: Lincoln
Egypt: Cleopatra (a little iffy, though, considering her actual lineage)
Greece: Pericles...and whoever the founder of Sparta was (I can't remember his name)
Inca: Atahualpa (unless he was too similar to his father...)
Persia: Darius, Xerxes

Thoughts on what to do in this regard?

 

[zulu9812]

Discussions. Go. In. The. Main. Creation.&.Customization. Forum.

 

[Edgecrusher]

I dont know if its to the point of being universally the standard, but Adolf Hitler for Germany was created to be Aggressive/Charismatic.

Just wait for the new expansion to add 2-3 more traits (Seafaring, Agricultural, Scientific, since most of the nations that would be added would have a leader with at least 1 (if not 2) of these traits.

Most likely civs

Seafaring: Phoenicia, Netherlands, Portugal
Agricultural: Iroquois, Maya, Cherokee, Sumeria
Scientific: Babylon

 

[zulu9812]

You really shouldn't do that. You're just encouraging people to post in the wrong forum, and then the whole place gets really disorganised.

 

[Edgecrusher]

When I posted, the thread was in the Main Custom/Creation folder