Final Fixes Reborn

[Airborne7]

Yep that fixed it, python is working and performance is good.

 

[Bearmarshal]

btw, adding subdue to a unit with bounty hunter(?), like the Black Wind, doesn't work. it's like the bounty promo overrides the subdue, the black wind can never capture a creature. i think the same might be true of the Baron Halfmorn.

I think hidden nationality units can't capture because you shouldn't be able to raid neutral territory with them and capture their units. A special case could be added for units belonging to a player you're at war with, though.

Unless this is a bug introduced in the latest beta release, then no, the Subdue promotions work just fine for Baron Duin Halfmorn. They do, however, let him capture and werewolf the same unit, creating two copies of it where one is a werewolf and the other isn't. I did this to Acheron once. Hilarity ensued.

I'm unsure <bOverflowProduction>1</bOverflowProduction> is working. This is part of the Regimented trait of the Bannor. I tried giving this boolean to Industrious and had not the overflow works. Have anybody tried the Bannor recently?

You need to queue up multiple productions, otherwise it won't do anything. The help text is a bit confusing, as it leads you to think that it will reproduce the same unit until it runs out of overflow production, but this is not the case.

Am I the only one thinking the Hawk range is just too good? You can redeploy this 20-production unit in cities (yours or the ones of any open border civ) or even citadels and have it 'explore' 17x17 tiles (if I'm counting right), for a grand total of 289 tiles.

I can understand players don't want to be bothered only exploring the world with recon units but still, this feel a bit too much. I have modded the Hawk to have a range of 1 (meaning he will explore 13x13 which is still super great) and the cost is now 50.

I do agree with you, but I would shrink the radius of the explored area rather than the range. That said, if there's anything I think should be done to hawks, then it's removing their ability to see invisible units hidden with stealth, since fluff-wise, those are usually supposed to be magically concealed. Revealing invisible animals is fine, though.

 

[Vorpal+5]

The Roc unit is super huge (the 3D model).

Creating a war Sluga with Mekara (you need an arena and a slave) crashes the game consistently. This is a slight problem given that Slugas are very important for Mekara!

 

[Joey Diamond]

Is there any plan for Great Commander? Unlike the vanilla FFH and CIV, where its use are quite straightforward. AOE Great Commander can take quite a while to be useful due to a very slow XP gain from minion and AI are pretty bad at it, running around and add no bonus to a group it attached to then getting unceremoniously killed off. Also, minion promotions seems to be either underdeveloped as a whole or favor melee unit too much.

How about some buff? By making Great Commander start with a new "standing army" promotion: Grants minion unit +10% strength, +10% XP from combat, Heal extra 5% on all territory. Basically, Attached unit will always be a little bit better than non-attached unit.

 

[Vorpal+5]

That would be a nice idea and would help the AI.

 

[Nor'easter]

CtD when trying to re-load from the latest Autosave. Logs Folder attached as a zip file.

 

[Nor'easter]

Some python exceptions on starting up a new game. Zip file of the Screenshots folder attached.

 

[Nor'easter]

A whole bunch of python errors, all happening on the same turn.

 

[Nor'easter]

What event causes barbarian Shadows to spawn in the early game? I just got wiped out on Turn 37 by a Demonic Shadow. Seems way too early for any barbarian faction to have Tier 4 units.

 

[Bearmarshal]

What event causes barbarian Shadows to spawn in the early game? I just got wiped out on Turn 37 by a Demonic Shadow. Seems way too early for any barbarian faction to have Tier 4 units.

Possibly some AI player scout exploring a dungeon near your lands. It happened to me when Loki ran into my land and explored a dungeon (it was only a hellhound and three skeletons, but right next to my only worker, so I reloaded the save). That reminds me, I would like Loki to be unable to explore dungeons, since he's virtually unkillable and thus suffer very few consequences from bad results. It makes running into neutral players' territory and exploring their dungeons a potentially player-wiping strategy in the early game.

 

[Vorpal+5]

Any idea how to make so that when a national or religion hero is dead, he can be recreated again (by any civ), and without any xp. This pity me when the AI just waste their hero and it is gone forever.

 

[Vorpal+5]

I have a barbarian city named 'Stoville DOES THIS APPEARS', is it from you Black Imperator or a left over of ancient modding?

 

[black_imperator]

I think hidden nationality units can't capture because you shouldn't be able to raid neutral territory with them and capture their units. A special case could be added for units belonging to a player you're at war with, though.

i don't really think that we should make a special case. The idea of hidden nationality is really to look like a barbarian

Unless this is a bug introduced in the latest beta release, then no, the Subdue promotions work just fine for Baron Duin Halfmorn. They do, however, let him capture and werewolf the same unit, creating two copies of it where one is a werewolf and the other isn't. I did this to Acheron once. Hilarity ensued.

the double capture should be fixed

You need to queue up multiple productions, otherwise it won't do anything. The help text is a bit confusing, as it leads you to think that it will reproduce the same unit until it runs out of overflow production, but this is not the case.

hmm that's actually the old mechanic, i'll fix the tooltip

I do agree with you, but I would shrink the radius of the explored area rather than the range. That said, if there's anything I think should be done to hawks, then it's removing their ability to see invisible units hidden with stealth, since fluff-wise, those are usually supposed to be magically concealed. Revealing invisible animals is fine, though.

Technically, we have different lore reasons for different invisible stuff, i want to clean that up at some point, but i haven't thought too much about it yet.

The Roc unit is super huge (the 3D model).

Creating a war Sluga with Mekara (you need an arena and a slave) crashes the game consistently. This is a slight problem given that Slugas are very important for Mekara!

Yeah, the roc thing i probably need to fix at some point. The sluga bug should be fixed in svn

Is there any plan for Great Commander? Unlike the vanilla FFH and CIV, where its use are quite straightforward. AOE Great Commander can take quite a while to be useful due to a very slow XP gain from minion and AI are pretty bad at it, running around and add no bonus to a group it attached to then getting unceremoniously killed off. Also, minion promotions seems to be either underdeveloped as a whole or favor melee unit too much.

How about some buff? By making Great Commander start with a new "standing army" promotion: Grants minion unit +10% strength, +10% XP from combat, Heal extra 5% on all territory. Basically, Attached unit will always be a little bit better than non-attached unit.

i know that i need to look at this, especially on the AI part, but nothing specific is planned yet.

CtD when trying to re-load from the latest Autosave. Logs Folder attached as a zip file.

i'll need the save if possible.

Some python exceptions on starting up a new game. Zip file of the Screenshots folder attached.

A whole bunch of python errors, all happening on the same turn.

hmmm that's the log issue you had a few days ago again. I'll deactivate more of it

What event causes barbarian Shadows to spawn in the early game? I just got wiped out on Turn 37 by a Demonic Shadow. Seems way too early for any barbarian faction to have Tier 4 units.

either dungeon or the unicorn event, i'm gonna cut that result of the unicorn event.

Possibly some AI player scout exploring a dungeon near your lands. It happened to me when Loki ran into my land and explored a dungeon (it was only a hellhound and three skeletons, but right next to my only worker, so I reloaded the save). That reminds me, I would like Loki to be unable to explore dungeons, since he's virtually unkillable and thus suffer very few consequences from bad results. It makes running into neutral players' territory and exploring their dungeons a potentially player-wiping strategy in the early game.

i'll think about it

Any idea how to make so that when a national or religion hero is dead, he can be recreated again (by any civ), and without any xp. This pity me when the AI just waste their hero and it is gone forever.

that'll need dll work. in the svn, though, they are resurrectable (which AI knows about when choosing its mana bonus/spell promotion)

I have a barbarian city named 'Stoville DOES THIS APPEARS', is it from you Black Imperator or a left over of ancient modding?

left over, should be fixed in svn.


So for the next dev diary, Religions and Alignments are tied in first place with 1 vote, here is the list of themes you can vote for and the latest dev diary on crime : https://docs.google.com/document/d/14P90zYvnsodp-PLfRDmAehvX--nuhGV6yhKZMUxy9NI/edit#

 

[Vorpal+5]

Thanks for the details and diary Black Imperator!

I'm indeed not using the SVN version, only the stable release. About that, do you remember having tweaked the bOverflowProduction in SVN? Because I tested with Bannor, and no, it is not possible to produce more than one military unit with them per turn and city, confirmed. So ... is it a fix you did since last stable release, do you remember?

 

[Vorpal+5]

Do you know of anything that can force me to be in the liberty civic? Perhaps a resolution? Or might it be a bug?

 

[Nor'easter]

Do you know of anything that can force me to be in the liberty civic? Perhaps a resolution? Or might it be a bug?

If you're an Overcouncil member, the Overcouncil can vote to adopt Liberty as a Global Civic.

 

[Nor'easter]

Python exception (non-CTD-causing, fortunately), screenshot attached.

 

[Bearmarshal]

Bugs:

1. It seems the Tolerant trait isn't working. I've captured two Doviello cities, but they can only build Elohim buildings and units.

Issues and concerns:

1. The Empyrean soundtrack Might_and_Magic_VII01.mp3 has a few annoying glitches toward the opening of the song.
2. Blizzards are a major nuisance when living close to Illian lands, since they require huge numbers of sun adepts running around scorching any land you can't afford to snow over. Is there any spell which actually destroys the blizzards so I can actively intercept them when they enter my lands? Otherwise, I would very much like something like that.

Thoughts:

1. At one point, three civs which were all at Furious attitude toward me declared war against me on the same turn. I'm playing Immortal, so I'm not complaining, but I didn't know the AI was pulling stunts like these. I never checked what their stance was toward one another, though, but I don't think it was entirely good (two of them had been warring earlier)...

 

[The Flame8]

Holy crap you guys never gave up. That makes me really happy

I'll have to take a look and catch up on the page after page of forums when I get the chance.

 

[Vorpal+5]

Bugs:

1. At one point, three civs which were all at Furious attitude toward me declared war against me on the same turn. I'm playing Immortal, so I'm not complaining, but I didn't know the AI was pulling stunts like these. I never checked what their stance was toward one another, though, but I don't think it was entirely good (two of them had been warring earlier)...

There is a dogPile attitude and value for each leader. So yes, AI can and will dogpile you. To death.