You keep saying I'm annoyed, but that doesn't actually make me so Deal with someone disagreeing with you, I guess? I'm perfectly allowed to. My point was that your guess wasn't educated. It was definitely an opinion, but that alone doesn't make it an educated one. And finally, no, you didn't specifically use the word incompetence. However, would you mind detailing what direction BE went in (that wasn't present in CiV) that you didn't like? The tech web? Affinities? Um . . . maybe how they restructured Social Policies into Virtues? You need to give reasons, instead of just saying "I don't like these developers". Nor did you in your response address my point that BE developers also most likely worked on CiV. And Civ 4. And any previous games. You single out the BE team like they're brand-new and had no impact on any other Civ game. Which is funny (not annoying)! Moderator Action: The two of you need to stop derailing this thread by debating "who said or meant what". Please return to discussing the topic and stop directing your posts to each other.