Firaxis: Patch coming next week

[Renegade X]

Maybe I'm just a gobby punk, so what. Not my problem if some tard doesn't like what I post.

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[blue3c]

Chances are that after the little note I dropped in the admins inbox I'm gonna be going to the forum jail for a loooooong time so I guess I better say my bit before he reads it.
Most of us already have this game, some are fanboys, some are just gamers, some are just here to dish out anonymous abuse directed at firaxis, some here just to dish out abuse. Regardless of what has happened it cannot be altered, they cocked up, who cares? They seem to be getting off thier ars*s and sorting it out which is all that matters.
Consider the number of DXdiag files and logs they have to sift through on a daily basis, 8-10 hours a day of reading the same old cr*p, sweating it out over a dodgy keyboard in a draughty office drinking the worlds cheapest, nastiest coffee all just to keep a baying mob like us happy. Have a heart, give them time. If it comes to like 10 patches and still no joy THEN I guess they deserve to get ripped into but as you all fine well know, the test of time is a long, long road with many a corner, bump, twist and turn. Who knows what will happen? What if Civilization 4.1 runs like a dream? What if they make good on the money we have all spent and give us the game we all know it is?
I would lay money that of the THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people who have flamed, abused, mocked and otherwise badmouthed firaxis, only a few hundred will ever post a "sorry" or a "thank you".
Like it has been said by many men wiser than I, patience.

Are you kidding me. I will not post a sorry or thank you. Not now not ever. Why, because I paid for a product, I have above rec requirments and still have a paper weight not a game. If they do fix it with this patch, I still do not owe them one nice word. Because I paid for a working product. It did not say "beta" anywhere on the box, what it did say is system requirments. And I exceeded these. Therefore I should have expected to be able to play.
10 patches???? Its already slim odds that I purchase another thing from this company. If it takes 10 patches I will be a crusading pissed off customer. 10 patches would take over a year at this rate. And if it took that amount of time I would expect some interest on the 50 I loaned firaxis then. Cause I sure of hell would not have purchased anything.
You know what I think. I think you either work for them. Or your looking to argue with someone.

 

[blue3c]

Maybe I'm just a gobby punk, so what. Not my problem if some tard doesn't like what I post.

So... nevermind you make my point for me. Your not looking to defend anything here. Your just here to argue. Good luck with that. Have a nice day and all that.

 

[Renegade X]

I think you either work for them. Or your looking to argue with someone.

Are you [Deleted] me? I'm trying to defend these people who are apparently having a [Deleted] of a time with a new game engine. So it was rushed, if they make good on it then I dont care. Question is, why did you just up and buy it? Why did YOU not check out what people have been saying? Would you buy a car just because the previous model was good? Would you buy a motherboard based on a totally new design or technology without researching it first? Get real son, everyone I have met who craves perfection finds only disappointment.
Dont be fooled by your hardware list either, theres a guy on this forum who runs civ on an underspec laptop and happily endures a sluggish performance rate, yet you cannot run it on a PC that pwns the recommended? My comp is around the recommended and I can run the game but I suffer from the bugs but instead of whining and griping I just found something else to play in the meantime. There is an eternity ahead of you to play this game and once it has had a patch it will be fine. There are few games that run perfectly at 1.0, live with it.

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[JakeCourtney]

Why are they putting the patch though so much Quality Assurance when they didn't give a crap about the QA on the actually game! Release the frickin patch already so I can reinstall this game.

 

[King Flevance]

If it takes 10 patches I will be a crusading pissed off customer.

LMAO I love this line.

If you aren't already crusading blue, I wouldn't know what to call it.
Nevertheless lets hope this patch comes soon so we can see what we got to work with then. I am betting they arent going to say anything until "Here you go, a patch!" which is lame also IMHO. Someone mentioned patches come out alot of times on Mondays or something and I will be out of town all weekend so maybe, who knows? Oh yeah, no one.

 

[King Flevance]

Are you sh*tt*ng me? I'm trying to defend these people who are apparently having a b*tch of a time with a new game engine. So it was rushed, if they make good on it then I dont care. Question is, why did you just up and buy it? Why did YOU not check out what people have been saying? Would you buy a car just because the previous model was good? Would you buy a motherboard based on a totally new design or technology without researching it first? Get real son, everyone I have met who craves perfection finds only disappointment.
Dont be fooled by your hardware list either, theres a guy on this forum who runs civ on an underspec laptop and happily endures a sluggish performance rate, yet you cannot run it on a PC that pwns the recommended? My comp is around the recommended and I can run the game but I suffer from the bugs but instead of whining and griping I just found something else to play in the meantime. There is an eternity ahead of you to play this game and once it has had a patch it will be fine. There are few games that run perfectly at 1.0, live with it.

FYI all 'respectable' reviewers gave this game at least a 9.0 and anytime they mention technical problems, if at all, they say that they will probably be fixed by release date. (I didn't look up reviews pre-purchase, but I have researched more than enough to learn it would not have mattered. As the reviews were misleading save one I posted in the UNi Chicago thread. And even it suggested the posibility of fixing before release.)

Why are they putting the patch though so much Quality Assurance when they didn't give a crap about the QA on the actually game! Release the frickin patch already so I can reinstall this game.

To try and cover their arses.
As Kashya in the rogue camp on Diablo 2 says, "Welcome outlander, to our circle of suffering."

 

[ahsingjai]

Talking about off topic...
yall should close this thread cuz it's misleading.

 

[warpstorm]

I am betting they arent going to say anything until "Here you go, a patch!"

Then you'd lose since Firaxis said that they sent the patch off to Take2 early this week for testing.

 

[King Flevance]

Nah, we're just talking while we wait. News that the patch is going through QA as we speak has came out. Thats it though.

 

[King Flevance]

Then you'd lose since Firaxis said that they sent the patch off to Take2 early this week for testing.

I meant after that we wont hear anything as far as when its planned to come out until "Here you go"
All they said is, "Hey we got one" then left us to ourselves again. I hardly feel a need to start skipping.

 

[Dtry]

I prefer 2K to take there time and test the patch as throughly as they can. It is always better to take a little more time in testing a patch, then rush it.

 

[warpstorm]

I meant after that we wont hear anything as far as when its planned to come out until "Here you go"

And honestly what more do you want them to say? At this point they'll release it when it passes their QA. Like any patch thet'll depend on how many times it gets kicked back.

 

[King Flevance]

I prefer 2K to take there time and test the patch as throughly as they can. It is always better to take a little more time in testing a patch, then rush it.

I agree thats why the game is so shabby right now.

And honestly what more do you want them to say? At this point they'll release it when it passes their QA. Like any patch thet'll depend on how many times it gets kicked back.

A rough estimation at least of when we may expect it. Tomorrow? A few days? A week? 2 weeks? Something, but however, they 'released information' So now people are saying, "Well, they said something. rah rah rah" Well, yeah they said something. But it doesnt mean anything. I think its rediculous to expect people to get excited because after almost 3 weeks they 'said something'
This something though, means nothing. OK so you have a patch your working on. I knew this in the first week. So, nothing has really changed other than they 'said' they have patch. Which is how this thread got started 3 weeks ago.

I know people are going to say "They cant give us an estimate because then they get bad press if it isnt released on time" Well, whoopty do. Not like the people with good thoughts about them will care if it is pushed back as they are happy now, and not like those of us who are relying on the patch can really get a lower opinion. So whats this arguement even about?
That they will lose sales if this happens? I doubt it. And even if they do, good. It may save someone else this kind of hassle. Just guesstimate so we know. Should I have to keep loading the game everyday to check for updates? Or can they try to give me a good time to check? I would like to have an idea personally, as I am sure alot of other people in my situation would.
It IS possible to SAFETY ballpark a guesstimation. Give themselves an extra week, that way if it is delayed they are safe, if it is not, they are early. People do that all the time. The point is, yes they acknowledged our suffering. What did it really accomplish?

 

[warpstorm]

How about like id does "When it's done"?

 

[King Flevance]

How about like id does "When it's done"?

LOL well, obviously.
How about "We are expecting it to go through QA by Monday the Xth. If we run into any complications, information concerning the release will be posted on the main site. Please stay posted."
What is honestly so hard about this?

EDIT: I just did it in the process of packing as I have to leave in an hour. They must be so busy they don't have time to piss. I could come up with a release statement that keeps PR in the time it takes me to drain my 3rd leg.

 

[Renegade X]

What is honestly so hard about this?

Do you neglect to use your brain through choice or is it a medical issue?

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Its simple -:
Initial poor quality release + worthless patch = Riots

 

[TSteamer]

A rough estimation at least of when we may expect it. Tomorrow? A few days? A week? 2 weeks?

Agreed. I dont need a fixed date. I need an update. Analogy: (indulge me ) When you're running late to meet friends because of work, you call to say you'll be 20 mins late (which firaxis/2k has already done with the oft referred to "sent to QA" post on their website) . Now when you finally get in the car and then hit 30 mins of traffic in the city, you further call and update your friends--rather than letting them hang with bad info. (our situation )

At any rate, some sort of update would be better than alternating between checking the civ4 website and this one every 15 minutes to see if today is the day they meant when they said "next week" in the middle of last week.

 

[GenericKen]

No patch this week.

I'd rather it be released stable than quickly, but I'd rather it be released stable *and* quickly. These delays only indicate that the patch is not entirely stable as is.

 

[Yrth]

A sad sad day. Unfortunately, I'm a believer now in the problems with Civ IV

I'd gotten used to playing Civ IV until past 1500 or so when a lot of the map is revealed or world maps are traded. Past that, I was expecting to crash to desktop now and then. By the 1800s and definitely by the 1900s crashes were frequent. But I figured, I could get those games going and see if I could start them up again once there was a patch.

Well, I'm happily playing along and its around 1500 and CRASH -- not to desktop but to nothing! System won't shut down. I reboot -- Nothing! System tries to restore -- Nothing! Finally, I have to do a full restore from a boot DVD.

But, alas, it does not go well. My recovery DVD had a flaw. While I could reload Windows XP and just about every program, my Nero program would not install -- a PDF file was corrupted. Luckily, my recovery DVD was an RW and I had a second computer to download a clean english version PDF and, voila, I recovered. You'd think non-critical files such as PDFs could be ignored by an install program huh? Also, had a virus scan program flaw but that I fixed quickly.

But all my personal files gone. All save games gone. All my links gone. I'm now actually afraid to load it back on. Good thing some old scanned family pics were on DVD. It's taken me hours to get back running. And I really did love the game. Well, still do. Here's hoping the first patch will help stabilize the game for me. I mean, crashing to desktop, while annoying, does not make me worry. But the hard crash. Wow. I really didn't think that could happen even though some posters said it could. But now I'm going to be a judicious burner and back up all important stuff!

Running a 3 week old notebook, Athlon 4000+, 1 GIG RAM, ATI Radeon X600. (Yes, I should be using a desktop but I have to travel frequently and there is no way I can handle hotel rooms without a notebook).