Gator01 - 100K or Bust

[Kaiser_Berger]

I'm in for this one as well. GOTM 14 is classic, but is in danger of being run into the ground if played over and over. Despite playing GOTM 24 over a year ago, I still have a memory of the map. However, I still think that it stands to be our best option that appears to me. I'm sure there are other options though.

 

[mad-bax]

We could play the Iroquois (Deity) game or the Egyptian (Emperor) game (9 I think). Neither have decent targets though.

I've always wanted to play a 100K at Deity. I would play the Iroquois game with the Jason date for a target.

 

[rrau]

If I get a slot, what about increasing the difficulty level for game 6 (India) since so many people know the other maps. We could keep the same target date or use the Jason date instead.

 

[Northern Pike]

Checking in.

Given the problems with 14 and 24, 31 looks best.

 

[DJMGator13]

Here is a list of all the emoreror plus level GOTMs (that weren't listed earlier). I added the Best Date numbers as pulled from the Jason Calculator page.

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GOTM Fastest Level Civ Map Best Date Notes
4 1994 Emperor ENG Std archipelago 1475AD a top 3 finish with Jason of 10972
7 1860 Deity IRQ Std Pangaea 1515AD most players got beat, Jove finished in 6th with a loss
9 1655 Emperor EGY Large arch 1305AD there was a 2nd place finish with a Jason of 7558, but top 6 were all milked
11 1924 Emperor JPN Small continent 1535AD
16 1600 Emperor ROM Std continents 1525AD several higher scoring games with much later dates
19 1580 Emperor OTTO Small continent 1625AD 15th place Jason over10K
20 1705 Deity SPN Std continents 1555AD just played as KA01
22 1872 Emperor VIK Std continents 1700AD SirPleb did a 1645AD 20K 10th place - looks like a good one to try a 20K on
25 1850 DG MONG Std Pangaea 1495AD
26 1740 Deity HAN Std continents 1525AD highest and lowest
29 1745 Emperor EGY Std continents 1545AD 16th place Jason 9444
33 1550 Emperor GRK Std Pangaea 1395AD 16th place Jason 8287
36 1772 Emperor ENG Std archipelago 1485AD
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GOTM 7 looks very interesting, that is one that MB mentioned. If you look at the final results of the 97 players submitting games there were only 18 that won their games. The fastest 100K game placed 40 and was beaten by 22 games that were losses. Jove actually finished in 6th place with a spaceship loss. Downside of this one is that it is similair to the current GOTM as Deity pangaea.

There is also one Demigod level game in the list.

One thing I noticed while putting together this list is that a lot of the earlier 100K games were milked. Was the Jason scoring system not used back then or does milking a 100K game acheive a higher score?

BTW, I think I found a good game to try a 20K on later. Check out the GOTM22 results. SirPleb had a top 10 finish with a 1645AD date.

 

[AlanH]

earlier 100K games were milked. Was the Jason scoring system not used back then or does milking a 100K game acheive a higher score?

That's the case. Jason was invented and first used in anger around GOTM 17. And it was created specifically because the only way to win a GOTM used to be to milk.

I believe Jason dates and scores are less accurate for old games because the game rules were modified with the arrival of PtW, but I don't know how much of an effect this has as it all predates my arrival here.

 

[DJMGator13]

That's what I though looking at the score and dates.

Alan or any GOTM staff. How can we get a copy of the #7 start file? It's not active from this post that announced it and the main GOTM only goes back to 15.

EDIT: Disregard that request. I found them. All the early ones are here.

 

[AlanH]

Try the archive here. It's linked from the GOTM Reference thread.

 

[DJMGator13]

Here's a look at the start positions from #7, #25, & #26 (two settlers).


GOTM #07 Deity

GOTM #25 Demi-god

GOTM #26 Deity & we start with 2 settlers?

GOTM #24 Emperor but we could change it to deity

 

[bed_head7]

double post

 

[bed_head7]

I'll join, and have no preference as I have never played any of the games we are replaying.

Perhaps there could be a third roster for the others interested?

 

[rrau]

I like 24 or 25. Looking at those starts, I can recall playing the Hans because of the unique map setup cracker made (I don't think I submitted), but I think the others were when I was taking a break from GOTM as they seemed to be getting extremely hard for my skill level (was warlord/regent at that time).

FYI: Just so I don't cripple a team, I'm currently emperor level {(with a good start so far)-but I'm still alive and playing gotm7 so far and it doesn't have a good start)} with one single, unrepeated diplomatic demigod win. If that's below the skill level you're looking for, feel free to include someone else on your roster instead

 

[DJMGator13]

I've dropped a pm to ainwood and nikof. I wanted to give everyone from the last game the first option.

For 3 teams we will need at a minimum 5 more players to keep the 6 person teams, depending on ainwood and nikof.

I'll go ahead and place an ad for a few more.

 

[ainwood]

Yes - checking in.

I don't mind what game we play. GOTM 24 I can remember (I got fastest Conquest IIRC ) Interestingly, it was also the only conquest!

25 I didn't play (and its more suited to warmongering).

GOTM 07 was the inspiration for my GOTM 37.

GOTM 36 was quite good fun (and there was a lot of options around the start (what to do with the second settler).

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Thanks for the PM Gator. I'm in. I would prefer an older game. I've play the games since 21. You should put me late in a rotation for a more recent game since I have spoiler information.

 

[TemporalAnomaly]

I'll be more than happy to join in if it's .

 

[Tomoyo]

I don't care which one it is, actually, because I only started GOTMing with 36.

 

[Bede]

Sign me in 'Gator.

Since my earliest GOTM participation was 28, I think, anything earlier is great.

 

[DJMGator13]

Looks like the ad and a couple of pm's worked well so far.

Welcome Sir Bugsy, TemporalAnomaly and Bede. This should almost fill out the third team with our earlier joiners rrau, el_filet and leif.

We may need to shake the rosters slightly to accomadate software versions. Temporal has requested PTW. Are there any other Civ III (mac) only players? We have one and possibly two slots on the Civ III team.

Most people are stating a familiarity with the recent games so why don't we use the GOTM #7 save. Other than ainwood I think the rest of us have not played that one. It also appears to be an unmodded van Civ III game.

To our GOTM staff players - before we decide to use #7 can PTW use the Civ III save or are there changes (rules, civlopedia, etc...) that need to be made?

 

[Bede]

PTW, Vanilla all okay with me.