Gay Marriage - Yay!, or NEIGH?

[The Last Conformist]

We don't. We have something called "registered partnerships" that amount to much the same legally.

That "much the same" is to say that people in a registered partnership cannot adopt a child or be recognized as the legal guardians of a child*, and that regulations that discriminate legal spouses based on sex does not apply - the example I found is that a woman who'se registered partner is made unable to work due to work-related injury cannot receive a widow's pension.

* Except that if one of the contrahents is the biological parent of the child, in which case he/she is the legal guardian by default; the partner cannot become, while the husband/wife in a marriage could.

 

[Grav]

I'm from Massachusettes, and I couldn't be happier with what is happening. I'm a bit young to get married, but I'd like to someday.

 

[Ossric]

i live in Belgium where Gay marriages are legal. Last time i checked, civilisation hasn't ended, decadence isn't in upswing, the Devil isn't appearing before our eyes, churches aren't collapsing. Moral values & ethics are still in place. I guess i'm for gay marriages. (not to forget: now those married couples have to pay more taxes in Belgium! Apparently it's a crime to be married according to the tax collectors)

 

[Tycho Brahe]

Denmark legalized de facto gay marriage in 1989. Norway followed in 1993 and Sweden in 1994. This is what The Last Conformist calls "registered partnerships".

THE FIRST legal married gay couple was Axel & Eigil Axgil, who married together with 10 other couples in Copenhagen the 1st October 1989. It was a worldwide media event. But at this time Axgils had been together for nearly 40 years, 32 of which under a common name.

Axel and Eigil had in 1957 combined their first names into the family-name Axgil when they were in prison for gay right activism. So many gay couples also changed their names that the government soon stopped this early precursor to civil union. In 1989 the Partnership Law again made such name changes possible.

 

[KaNick]

All legal marriages should be abolished. But this is a good thing, if you are going to have marriage every one should be able to marry.

 

[SeleucusNicator]

Gay people have always been allowed to get married in the United States. Of course, since marriage in this country is defined as a union between a man and a woman, most of them don't want to. That's their own problem.

Some states, such as Vermont, have recognized homosexual relationships and have allowed Civil Unions that provide virtually all of the relevant benefits of marriage with none of the arcane laws. I believe this is similar to what Scandinavia has, but I'm not entirely sure. I truely wish San Francisco and Massachusetts would follow that line instead.

There's no poll option that reflects my view on this (shame on the poster), so I will sit this one out.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Some states, such as Vermont, have recognized homosexual relationships and have allowed Civil Unions that provide virtually all of the relevant benefits of marriage with none of the arcane laws. I believe this is similar to what Scandinavia has, but I'm not entirely sure. I truely wish San Francisco and Massachusetts would follow that line instead.

I do not know what "arcane laws" you are refering to, but I have listed the legal differences between Swedish marriages and registered partnerships a few posts up.

"Registered partnership" isn't my term, BTW; it's a straight (pun intended) translation of the official Swedish term, registrerat partnerskap.

 

[Tycho Brahe]

In 2000, Denmark passed a law that gives homosexuals couples the right to obtain custody of children by a previous heterosexual marriage, however gay couples still cannot adopt children.

 

[EzInKy]

In 2000, Denmark passed a law that gives homosexuals couples the right to obtain custody of children by a previous heterosexual marriage, however gay couples still cannot adopt children.

In the US I believe their are only a couple of states that prohibit gay adoptions. Florida is one (Anita Bryant Era).

 

[Bobo the Ape]

Gay Marriage - Yay!, or NEIGH?

Is spelling neigh like that (rather than "nay") a mistake or a subtle comment on the first couple who married?

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

Is spelling neigh like that (rather than "nay") a mistake or a subtle comment on the first couple who married?

Are horses opposed to gay marriage?

 

[Sims2789]

I agree in principle. That is not to say that I don't agree in practice. I in fact am glad that a state finally cared enough about common American values, such as equality, and legalized gay marriage. I am hetrosexual, by the way.

 

[Hundegesicht]

I honestly couldn't give a damn either way. I'm not gay and don't know what it's like to be gay, so why should I interfere with their lives? Not to mention this is a very good thing for the government (Marriage tax) and divorce lawyers...

 

[Bobo the Ape]

@Enkidu Warrior

Are horses opposed to gay marriage?

In general they favor a "leave it up to the State" approach.

Though judging by the two in Massachussets I'd say that in that state they are all for it.

 

[Mojotronica]

It's a travesty of justice that it's even an issue. Absolutely in favor of gay and lesbian marriage.

 

[Mojotronica]

Although Consitutionally it must be left to individual states to decide and recognize as they each see fit.

 

[Archer 007]

I didn't know the US was only the fourth country in the world to allow it. I mean, don't religious nuts run this place?

I think we were alot later then fourth.

 

[Bobo the Ape]

@Archer007

I think we were alot later then fourth.

Do you think or do you know?

If you know then why don't you tell us what number it is?

If you think then why do you think that a given statistic is vastly wrong?

 

[EzInKy]

I think we were alot later then fourth.

People have listed the other nations known to allow gay marraige and it does appear to be in fact this few. If you are aware of a lot of others could you please post them?

 

[blindside]

I really don't know where I stand on this issue. But I realized I really don't care because it doesn't affect me in any way so I couldn't care less which way it went. Although its always fun to have things like these pass to raise controversy and get the fascists upset.