RedWolf said:
It's not "nonsense".. It's exactly what you do... and it violates international law.
Hamas like it or not was democratically elected - they even managed to hold a ceasefire for 16 months.. Everyone tells radicals to work WITHIN the system instead of turning to violence which they did.
But your government did everything possible to make sure they failed.
To take events out of context is nonsence. Hamas, like it or not, still didn't change it's program to destroy Israel and rejected all peacefull agreements achieved before. If you believe in Hamas holding it's word and telling the truth about ceasing fire - you are very naive. Also, it would be very strange if "My" government didn't do everything possible to make sure Hamas government fail. Hitler was elected democratically too. By you logic the world should've done nothing about Hitler government?
Again - my non-solution doesn't make your non-solution right... or EVEN USEFUL (which it is NOT). Kill one terrorist create 5 more!? Good plan.,
No. You are wrong again. It is about creating the situation where terrorist knows his deed will not go unpunished. Yesterday Israeli government warned Hamas senior members that if Qasam bombardments from
Hamas members will not stop, they will be targeted also. And hamas stopped it. You see - it works.
Denying Israel's right to defend is pretty twisted logic in my opinion. By that logic UK had no right to respond to german bombings in WW2, after all it was their fault in WW1. By that logic you have nothing to do in the North America in the first place.
Seriously do you want to know MY solution... As a nation state you have the power to show restraint... you can protect yourselves domestically to be sure by patrolling the streets with police, undercover security forces etc.
I'd like you to show restraint when you spend all your day in the shelter.
Do everything possible to avoid terrorism on your streets. That's expensive but what do you spend on hellfire missles? Would pay for a lot of police... Maybe build some anti-missle launchers to stop the rocket attacks before they land on your territory. Israeli's are always saying how small the country is... shouldn't be that hard with all the US hardware and stuff.
We are not talking now about terrorists
in Israeli territory. We talk about Qasams and Grad missiles, launched from Gaza, where there is no israeli currently. Currently there are no systems in the world able to stop small projectiles. So "build some anti-missile" launchers is Science fiction.
Start giving the Palestinians their land back and their tax money which has been withheld. Do things to ensure that their living conditions get better and not worse.
Already done that in Gaza and some settlements in west bank. Hey, do you know what we are talking about here at all? Or were you on some uninhabitated island for last couple of years?
Now the difficult part - stop launching attacks on Palestinian civilian areas - regardless of what you WANT to do or what is politically the best option. It is certainly hard - but hard times are ahead for sure. YOU have the power to break the cycle and you cannot let every crazy person with a strap-on bomb veto the peace process. Make no mistake that is what you're doing when you retaliate - allowing one person to dictate your governments policy and destroy it for everyone.
Eventually people will decide that not fighting is better then fighting. Who truly wants to blow themselves up after all? They're acts of desperate, angry disenfranchised people. It will take time but slowly the hatred can subside on both sides of the conflict.
As I said before, try to seat in the house bombed by RPG and show restraint.
I said million times here, I'm for peace. Vast majority of israelis are for peace. We voted for peacefull government. But we are not going to seat and watch our cities bombarded by barbarians.
You repeat the same things all the time ABSOLUTELY refusing (or intentionnaly denying) to acknowledge undisputable facts like: 1) Readiness of Israel to peacefully coexist with palestinian state. 2) Readiness of Israel to accept painful but necessary compromise steps. 3) Steps done by Israel ALREADY like Gaza withdrawal and NOTHING done by palestinian side according to Road Map 4) Absence of hatred teaching against palestinians in Israeli schools and Israeli media 5) Presence of former in palestinian schools and media 6) "Democratical" election of Hamas by "striving" for peace palestinians.
So, It's up to you to decide who is who. I can't explain it better.
Now this can never work because no society can not retaliate after violent acts such as a suicide bombings. People want action - they want violence and they want revenge. Short term gain is better to most people.
So have fun with your unending war because that is what you have,
First, we are not having fun with this unending war. We are defending, because our peace propositions are constantly denied as I sad before. May be it's time for YOU to understand that this war is "unending" because palestinian terrorists see support from people like you (it's not a bad thing you want peace and grieve for innocent deaths, but it is bad thing you are mislead by powerfull anti-israel campaign), and continue making their sneaky attacks hiding themselves among children. Because then there is pretty good chance that Israeli rocket will kill one of them(children) and their(terrorist)attacks will be justified. Don't you see that they shamelessly make THEIR OWN children and citizens hostages of their diabolic campaign????
