[RD] George Floyd and protesting while black

[Crezth]

What is holding America together in the future if the American history as a whole is seen in negative light?

Monopoly capital and its brutal indiscriminate stormtroopers.

 

[Seon]

That and kinda the fact that human social organization have evolved past the need for cultural or even historical homogeneity since before we had a concept of culture and history.

 

[Lexicus]

I suppose that if your definition of ‘partisanship’ is “opposing the Republican Party,” I suppose you would be correct that BLM is partisan.

It's just a coincidence that this is the definition which has been used by the Republican Party since roughly the mid-90s.

 

[AmazonQueen]

I think its interesting that people are supporting BLM organization without even knowing much about it. Or are they actually only supporting the phrase? Lot of people in the BLM organization seems to be pretty extreme in their views.

Its also very weird how small aggressive minority is now controlling American society when it comes to who can say and what. Being labeled as a racist is the ultimate evil. And it seems that the most minor things get you labeled a racist and you can lose your job for pretty innocent tweet if SJW mob happens to make big deal of it. What I find disturbing is that now even family members of these so called racists are fired and stuff people said as teens is used to fire them. So people cant change?

As an outsider its interesting to see how fast USA is heading for some kind of SJW hegemony. I would have never though to see day when statues of founding fathers are brought down and American society is just watching it happen without real pushback. What is holding America together in the future if the American history as a whole is seen in negative light?

Which people in BLM seem extreme to you? Name one.
Small aggressive minority isn't controlling what Trump, Fox or OANN say are they?
How many statues of the founding fathers have been brought down? Confederate generals and politicians weren't founding fathers.
Its not about seeing the whole of US history in a negative light, its about being honest about what was positive and what was negative in it.

 

[red_elk]

Russia can into police brutality too! Well, sometimes

Spoiler :

 

[Seon]

I mean there is a reason why the anti-police protest have spread globally

 

[amadeus]

I mean there is a reason why the anti-police protest have spread globally

People are bored from the coronavirus.

 

[gay_Aleks]

You mean unemployed, due to the bubble that we call "capitalistic economy" burst, really, imploded. You can't have 40m unemployed people and expect nothing to happen.

 

[amadeus]

Operative word above being “globally.”

 

[gay_Aleks]

Ah, but unemployment right now is also global, you can see it pretty much in every country hit badly by the lockdowns, which considering the massive recession, is essentially the majority of them.

 

[innonimatu]

Hate crime laws don't give the state power to arbitrarily prosecute anyone.

Naiveté doesn't suit you any longer, Lexicus. Nor falling for the talk of people whose purpose is to divide and distract.

Policies need to be thought through, what will be their consequences. Someone defending two mutually contradictory policies is either trying to sabotage both, using them to divide those who'll fall for the talk, or just a fool. And seeing how big the economy of propaganda production has become, with state and private financing, I do tend to see malice whet people keep doing it again and again, ignoring anyone who points out their contractions.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

irrelevant to the point of discussion/incredibly obvious and trivial point. How does this help the case that distinguishing between destroying a church and a statue is arbitrary decision?

To help you understand my bewilderment on the matter, consider the following hypothetical.

"Is it okay to commit cold blooded murder if it is okay to commit cold blooded murder?"

This appears to be what you are saying when you claim that there would be no difference between destroying statues and churches if we only care about property values.

??? The initial proposition was damage to church, not the people in it right? Or am I mistaken?

There is no inherent difference between vandalizing a church and vandalizing a statue.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

People are bored from the coronavirus.

do you exclusively come here to make spiteful posts and devalue protesting?

oh, sure, those people want to be teargassed so badly because they're bored, not because they're fighting for fundamental rights..

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/408631366159197549/

also, Trojan Horse, at least somewhat.

 

[Modder_Mode]

ignoring anyone who points out their contractions.

Oh they don't ignore them at all, quite the opposite actually, they go after them, their families, their associates, and their livelihoods, quite successfully actually, they lie about them, they discredit them and they falsely accuse them.

Some may remember the Christian lobby groups of years gone by, they were the original "outrage" group, they'd be offended by anything, be it print, TV or radio, they were the cancel culture of the time, what we now have is a complete reversal of that and a new "outrage" group, ironically the new outrage group were the ones complaining how the Christian lobby groups wielded too much power and influence.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Which gets results? Making an official complaint or making a video of an incident?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-then-what-happened/ar-BB15RqYG?ocid=msedgntp

 

[Tristan_C]

the bubble that we call "capitalistic economy" burst, really, imploded.

What's so capitalist about the world governments locking everyone down?

The main critiques of capitalism vindicated by the memevirus were the potential benefits of domestic sourcing and immigrant screening. It is hard to gauge whether the policy of government-imposed lockdowns that crushed the economy were effective, and the results varied from place to place.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

What if a Church's Chicken is burned down? Would that be considered a hate crime?

Only if there is some officially recognized sect of chicken worshipers that I am unaware of using it as a designated house of worship.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

BLM should do what I said,

The concept that YOU are a source of useful direction for ANYONE is absolutely too hilarious to let pass unremarked.

 

[Sommerswerd]

People are bored from the coronavirus.

You may say this in jest, but I do think that the fact that the issue exploded at a time when so many were in isolation, sent home from campuses/schools, shut out of theaters, stadiums, restaurants/bars/clubs, laid-off/furloughed etc., created a perfect storm for protest.

Add in the fact that with all everyone at home, folks were online, consuming news and other media messages about what was going on, so the information was more widespread and more people were paying attention because they didn't have anything else to do. And more people were in turn, ready to go protest because it presented a worthy cause to leave isolation and in many cases, they didn't have anything else to do.

Plus you had so many folks facing so much hardship, and tragedy because of the crisis, that getting involved with the protest gave them an opportunity to focus on something else, besides the awful situations they were in personally.

 

[amadeus]

You may say this in jest, but I do think that the fact that the issue exploded at a time when so many were in isolation, sent home from campuses/schools, shut out of theaters, stadiums, restaurants/bars/clubs, laid-off/furloughed etc., created a perfect storm for protest.

You've hit the nail on the head exactly.