George W Bush comes to town

[Kefka]

Originally posted by FearlessLeader2:
So how do you feel about all the other signatory nations having already violated the treaty? Is the US supposed to honor a treaty that none of the other nations it signed the treaty with do? How disingenuous can you get?

I think bush is taking the high road by trying to get out of the treaty BEFORE he violates it!



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[BorderPatrol]

Originally posted by kefka:

How do you know Border!
have you been sneaking around in peoples heads again!

kefka, you kill me!

I guess I am just enlightened!

As far as your never being a republican or a democrat, I don't see where I said anything here about Bush being of a particular party affiliation. I would feel the same way about him if he were a democrat. I just don't want an oil tycoon running our country like it's a business. This is not America, Inc.!

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[Håkon]

Originally posted by animepornstar:
btw, shouldn´t it be: jag e´ en go´ gubbe?

Originally posted by shadowdale:BTW Håkon shouldn't it have been: Jag är en Gothenburger ?

Originally posted by Håkan Eriksson: No it should be:
Jag är en Göteborgare.
I am a Göteborgare.
Ich bin ein Göteborgare.

The funny thing with this (if you didn't catch it) was that he was trying to resemble John F. Kennedy (Ich bin ein Berliner)

The odds against Bush being shot is probably 1 million to one against, because he is one of the worst President the U. S. have had, and therefore you can not kill him.





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[Håkon]

Hate to reply to myself, but these news deserve a new post.

27 people are injured in demonstrations in Gothenburg, among them 12 policemen. After what news reports says it looks a horrible mess in there. The youths threw bikes, chairs and other things they could find at the police. No lives has been lost, though.

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[Simon Darkshade]

I do think that some of the protestors have a coherent point, but it gets spoilt by the lunatic fringe just out for a donnybrook.
I have made my feelings on GWB clear before, but I'll just note here what I think is the glaring fault of his NMD policy:
The main threat these days can be said not to come from missiles and states, but from disparate terrorist organisations, and so called suitcase bombs.
A small warhead in a truck several blocks wawy from Congress will do the same damage as the unlikely event of an Iraqi, Iranian or North Korean ICBM. It laos does not help with biological or chemical attacks, like the Japanese subway sarin attack of 1995.

In a world with disappearing borders, and a proliferation of terrorist groups, these are the main threats, not some neo-Cold War thinking.

In addition, the institution of NMD will encourage rivals and enemies of the US to researcg new weapons, and build more, as if I have the principle right, a missile shield cannot stop all the incoming warheads, and 10 to 20 000 is more effective than 10. This constitutes in my thinking, the beginnings of a new arms race, as the rest of the world is not going to capitualte and say:
"OK, you are invincible, whereas we are now completely vulnerable, and have no deterrent to you. Please take all we have, and we will bend over and grip our ankles for you."

They ain't going to go out that easy.
Yes, the ABM treaty is worth as much as the paper it is written on, but so is 98% of all diplomacy (the other 2% is worth less)

I just think the money that this will cost could be spent more effectively on addressing the modern threats of war, and on health, education, welfare and the environment.

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[SunTzu]

I don't think any country will condone terrorist attack against the US, especially chemical or biological or nuclear, cause i really don't think bush will hesistate to retaliate at the country the terrorist are from, and he should if that ever happens. Hopefully sweden won't send terrorist to the US

 

[TrailblazingScot]

SunTzu: The USA will have to provide cover for the UK at least...they need the UK for the early warning -though a part of me says that when we get nuked the americans will know whats on its way over

Plus how the nuke defence going to be able to stop the commies/or fundamentalists veteren spy units?

 

[Kefka]

Originally posted by BorderPatrol:

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kefka, you kill me!

I guess I am just enlightened! <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/smile.gif" border=0>

As far as your never being a republican or a democrat, I don't see where I said anything here about Bush being of a particular party affiliation. I would feel the same way about him if he were a democrat. I just don't want an oil tycoon running our country like it's a business. This is not America, Inc.!

I was repling to zeus's post were he called me a republican!

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[This message has been edited by Kefka (edited June 15, 2001).]

 

[animepornstar]

i´m a bit disappointed at håkan. bush survivid his visit in göteborg, he´s in poland now.

however, three persons were shot by the police. none of them died, the did only get wounded beause they were their legs.

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[Loaf Warden]

Am I the only one bothered by all this talk about shooting Bush? Now, I don't like him either; I think he's a spoiled, unintelligent, draft-dodging, oil-company-owned brat who has no business being the President. Nevertheless, he is the President, and talking about assassinating him is not funny. (I don't think talk about murdering anyone is funny, but when it's the President you're talking about, you can actually be arrested just for saying you're going to shoot him.)

 

[Grnscrpn]

You American's have some funny problems with your presidents, the last one can't keep his zipper up the new one can't keep his daughters sober, and would elect such people? lol

If Bush came to my area of canada I would shake his hand then nail him with a cream pie. Hey there's no need to shoot the guy just let the world laugh at him.

 

[animepornstar]

i wonder what they the guys at echalon (or what ever it is called) think about this forum. kill - george - w - bush...

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[MrSparkle]

What does it matter if his daughter has a drinking problem as long as it doesn't affect his ability to be president?

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[SpacemanSpiff]

Agreed, Mr. Sparkle. Similarly, what does it matter what a president does with his d**k as long as it doesn't affect his ability to be president?

Yes, that was a bonehead move on Clinton's part, but the only thing about it that affected his ability to be president was the ruckus the Repub Congress, conversative media & other Clinton-haters caused about it. Congress was not helping this country by putting us through all that needless distraction. It was partisan politics, "bury the enemy" mentality, pure & simple (though the "enemy" are just people with diff ideas of how to serve the same country). And no one tried to "impeach" Newt or the almost House Speaker (between Newt & Hassert) or a host of other congressmen for what they have done with their d**ks. Hmmmm.

Also, back in the day, some reporters knew about JFK's sexual exploits, but kept it quiet. Media & politics seemed to be more civilized back then ... not the "war" that the Repub leadership always seems to want. Every person involved in any of this is only human and deserves to be forgiven, esp. if you claim to believe in <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/jesus.gif" border=0> and His message.

I don't like Bush, but I don't fault him or his family for his/their more personal/private matters, just like I don't fault Clinton. If you are as consistent, I applaud you. If you think Bush's private matters should be more private than Clinton's, then you go have fun with your petty partisan politics.

I remain Independent ... waiting for a viable 3rd party in the U.S. to help break up all this partisan mess.
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[This message has been edited by SpacemanSpiff (edited June 17, 2001).]