Global warming strikes again...

Luckily, it turns out the Arctic sea ice is safe forever and global warming isn't happening
 
Luckily, it turns out the Arctic sea ice is safe forever and global warming isn't happening
Hey! Arctic sea ice loss is a good thing. It will allow us to exploit new oil and gas reserves and continue business as usual forever!
 
I guess my point about being able to track the mainstream scientific discussion compared to the mainstream media didn't resonate
 
Last IPCC predictions are that we'll reach 7°C if nothing is done.
I'm starting to get comfort thinking I would be dead by then. And considering how I'm afraid of death, it means that we really are going into a pretty terrible direction.
 
Last IPCC predictions are that we'll reach 7°C if nothing is done.
I'm starting to get comfort thinking I would be dead by then. And considering how I'm afraid of death, it means that we really are going into a pretty terrible direction.
I'm sure the republicans have a plan to make it 12-18°C!
 
Last IPCC predictions are that we'll reach 7°C if nothing is done.
I'm starting to get comfort thinking I would be dead by then. And considering how I'm afraid of death, it means that we really are going into a pretty terrible direction.

This seems untrue, unless you are talking about a different set of calculations. I can see 7 degrees under 'very high emissions' scenarios if we extend out to 2300 CE. But if you're going out that far, it's important to include that caveat. I also think you have a good chance of being dead by then.
 
Whats really uplifting is seeing the children of world come together on climate today. 1.4 million of them... in Germany alone.
 
This seems untrue, unless you are talking about a different set of calculations. I can see 7 degrees under 'very high emissions' scenarios if we extend out to 2300 CE. But if you're going out that far, it's important to include that caveat. I also think you have a good chance of being dead by then.
Ah sorry, I was a bit lacking in precision.
There were a new set of calculations by a bunch of French scientists, which works will be included in the IPCC, that released today their new estimations, and they are much worse than the previous ones.
So they found that temperatures could rise by up to 7°C if nothing is done.
It's a worst-case scenario, but I think that such an apocalyptic rise being even possible is really, really, really frightening.
 
BBC said:
Climate change: Impacts 'accelerating' as leaders gather for UN talks
The signs and impacts of global heating are speeding up, the latest science on climate change, published ahead of key UN talks in New York, says.

The data, compiled by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), says the five-year period from 2014 to 2019 is the warmest on record.

Sea-level rise has accelerated significantly over the same period, as CO2 emissions have hit new highs.

The WMO says carbon-cutting efforts have to be intensified immediately.

The climate statement is a pull-together of the latest science on the causes and growing impacts of unprecedented levels of warming seen in recent years.

Recognising that global temperatures have risen by 1.1 degrees C since 1850, the paper notes they have gone up by 0.2C between 2011 and 2015.

This is as a result of burgeoning emissions of carbon, with the amount of the gas going into the atmosphere between 2015 and 2019 growing by 20% compared with the previous five years.

Perhaps most worrying of all is the data on sea-level rise.

The average rate of rise since 1993 until now is 3.2mm per year. However, from May 2014 to 2019 the rise has increased to 5mm per year. The 10-year period from 2007-2016 saw an average of about 4mm per year.

"Sea-level rise has accelerated and we are concerned that an abrupt decline in the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets, which will exacerbate future rise," said WMO secretary general Petteri Taalas.

"As we have seen this year with tragic effect in the Bahamas and Mozambique, sea-level rise and intense tropical storms led to humanitarian and economic catastrophes."

The report also highlights the threats to the oceans, with more than 90% of the excess heat caused by climate change ending up in the waters. The WMO analysis says 2018 had the highest ocean heat content values on record.

The study underlines the fact that wherever you look on the planet right now, the story is the same: human-induced warming is impacting the scale and intensity of extreme weather events such as heatwaves and wildfires.

"Climate change due to us is accelerating and on a very dangerous course," said Prof Brian Hoskins, chair of the Grantham Institute, Imperial College London, and professor of meteorology, University of Reading.

"We should listen to the loud cry coming from the schoolchildren. There is an emergency - one for action in both rapidly reducing our greenhouse gas emissions towards zero and adapting to the inevitable changes in climate."
'No fancy speeches'

The WMO report is meant to inform the special UN summit on climate change taking place in New York on Monday.

A range of political leaders will attend the one-day event, which is designed to be about action and not words, according to UN secretary general António Guterres.

"I told leaders not to come with fancy speeches, but with concrete commitments," he said ahead of the meeting.

"People want solutions, commitments and action. I expect there will be an announcement and unveiling of a number of meaningful plans on dramatically reducing emissions during the next decade, and on reaching carbon neutrality by 2050."

Greta Thunberg and other youth activists, fresh from marching on the streets of New York on Friday, will speak at the opening of the meeting.

About 60 heads of state are expected to follow, with countries expected to announce new actions to limit the causes of warming or to speak on initiatives developed by a coalition of nations.

While China, India, France, Germany and the UK will speak at the meeting, there is no place on the podium for Japan or Australia.

Mr Guterres has asked that as well as committing to net-zero emissions by 2050, countries should reduce subsidies for fossil fuels and stop building new coal-fired power stations. The question of coal has led to the barring of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Australia's Scott Morrison.

The US, Brazil and Saudi Arabia will also not be taking part.

The success of the special summit remains in the balance - what isn't in question is the urgency of action and the fact that delay means more difficult decisions down the line.

"It is highly important that we reduce greenhouse gas emissions, notably from energy production, industry and transport. This is critical if we are to mitigate climate change and meet the targets set out in the Paris Agreement," said Petteri Taalas from the WMO.

"To stop a global temperature increase of more than 2 degrees C above pre-industrial levels, the level of ambition needs to be tripled. And to limit the increase to 1.5 degrees, it needs to be multiplied by five," he said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49773869
 
https://www.nationalpriorities.org/...-military-budget-renewable-energy-every-home/

Just 11% of the Pentagon’s current $716 billion budget -- about $80 billion -- would pay to produce enough wind and solar energy to power every one of the 127.59 million households in the United States**. That’s a ninth of one year’s military budget, to cover the up-front costs of construction and installation of enough renewable electricity for every home in the country. That’s just based on the 2018 costs of renewable energy, which have dropped more than half over the previous two years and are still getting cheaper.


Yea. . .
 
Confirmed then, Trump hates the environment. Say no more, say no more! Monty Python.
Hey you, financial cowboy. Ever considered that survival goes before "all that" other stuff? He havent seen Day After Tomorrow and lives in LaLa land perhaps, time to act.
And oh! Greta Thunberg just passed you i saw on Instagram in popularity. Not on Twitter though.
USA, China and India being the worst polluters and India i saw will step up a notch and do something, maybe.
You Trump should start to take responsibility more for what actually matters and forget about those who deny it all as being some idiotic propaganda because in the end it COULD lead up to the end of the world, WW 3, climate changes, clock is ticking tic toc, tic toc Mr. president and NA NA NANA NAAA.
Greta is better than you, a teenager, almost just a child.
But more mature than you!

Edit: And me referring merely to a Hollyweird movie disqualifies me OF COURSE from the intellectual elite and those academics who can go BLA BLA BLA but have polluted hearts and souls and i know a true and good heart from the opposite, i´m no idiot because of not getting some college education or fancy...
Hey, heart before brain and a sinner is a sinner.
Lets talk theology instead because then i run circles around "you", perhaps, (just counter answering any thoughts about me here now, weird? Sure!). But lets take the Bible for instance and lets talk Jesus.
(Just to say we all can be good at different stuff, not that we should do it here now). Alright.

Thank you
 
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I've just watched an interesting short about renewables and how they might not be a best option - all things considered - to save environment and decrease CO2 emissions. This guy has a strong argument there :

 
I've just watched an interesting short about renewables and how they might not be a best option - all things considered - to save environment and decrease CO2 emissions. This guy has a strong argument there :


Can you summarize that arguemtn for those of us who don;t have twenty minutes to watch some schleb talk about the evils of the renewable energy industry and how they are ruining the planet?
 
Can you summarize that arguemtn for those of us who don;t have twenty minutes to watch some schleb talk about the evils of the renewable energy industry and how they are ruining the planet?
Some standard right wing stuff, some of it straight from Donny Tiny-hands' mouth like Wind turbines killing birds and the sun and wind only blow sometimes. There was a bit about the "toxic waste" of broken or decommissioned solar panels, basically just a bunch of heavy metals. His concern over this is that those heavy metals never break down but nuclear waste does....eventually. I don't think that should be a massive concern, just a new problem to fix by creating reclamation processes.

He pushes nuclear pretty hard which I'm not necessarily against. I just think his critiques of solar and wind are really disingenuous.

My main question after watching it is, are his accent and mustache real? Also a follow up, if the mustache is real...why? Just...why?
 
The accent is probably real. Its a typically rural, typically northern english accent. Its not a prestige accent so even "native" speakers may tone it down for television, talking to lost tourists etc.
 
Some standard right wing stuff, some of it straight from Donny Tiny-hands' mouth like Wind turbines killing birds and the sun and wind only blow sometimes. There was a bit about the "toxic waste" of broken or decommissioned solar panels, basically just a bunch of heavy metals. His concern over this is that those heavy metals never break down but nuclear waste does....eventually. I don't think that should be a massive concern, just a new problem to fix by creating reclamation processes.

He pushes nuclear pretty hard which I'm not necessarily against. I just think his critiques of solar and wind are really disingenuous.

My main question after watching it is, are his accent and mustache real? Also a follow up, if the mustache is real...why? Just...why?

Now if he was American my next question would.... wait nvm has this guy received any checks form the Koch family or similar global fossil fuel industry interest in the past 3 years?

I support nuclear as well, but I will ride the environmentalist movement fro every dollar they get for solar and wind.
 
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