GoobNES01: Fallout [Third Thread]

[Toteone]

But aren't you Scottish? You do not consider yourself western?

Or are you plaing an African/other 3'rd world nation?

 

[Stormbringer]

You havent seen the other aplication of it yet. As soon as Goober posts the rest of the update you will all be in awe.

 

[alex994]

I'm an Eastern country

 

[Stormbringer]

And I have the best of the two worlds!

 

[Toteone]

Yeah but you're rich and industrial.

 

[Stormbringer]

I dont mind being rich. Nor do I mind being industrial for that matter.

 

[Kal'thzar]

I'm playing an African nation.

I don't think like that normally, way to selfish

Although if Stormy gets antimatter i want nanotech. (to an advanced level)

 

[Kozmos]

Shouldnt antimatter warheads leave no nuclear residue because they are positron based weaponary?

Other uses...lets see Antimatter reactors,would produce a hell of a lot of power.
And there is space use for fuel and propulsion.

 

[Kal'thzar]

yes there is no radiation other than gamma which ain't a problem.

Antimatter Can NOT be used for generating power, because first you've got to create it. which sucks in double the output energy. (and then half of the antimatters energy is again lost due to nutrinos)

 

[Stormbringer]

What if you could create it cheaply? Heheheh

 

[Toteone]

Maybe antimatter could be used for transporting energy efficiently in compact form across and through space/time?

 

[Kal'thzar]

doing it cheaply still means you lose out on money.

Totones suggestions good though

 

[Goober]

As the Update clearly said, the UIS only detonated the Nukes because they apparently thought the Russians were preparing to invade and launch their full arsenal at them. Plus they didn't work as prescribed.

Furthermore, this antimatter stuff is really, well, cutting edge, I guess. I mean, nobody knows what an antimatter bomb would do. Nobody really knows the effects, and least of all me. I have done reserch, but, well, the Web is not really useful for this kinda stuff. I kinda estimated the effects, coupled with what Stormy wanted them to accomplish. I read somewhere that antimatter would have worse radiation, but not necessarily pollution, then Nukes, so that is why I said that. This is cutting edge stuff people, and not widely available here. Regarding the cost, Stormy pumped more into this project then an ybody has ever done before in this NES. Seriously large sums of money.

 

[Symphony D.]

yes there is no radiation other than gamma which ain't a problem.

lurker's comment: Alpha radiation can be blocked by a sheet of paper. Beta with a piece of plywood. Gamma radiation takes several inches to feet of lead to defeat. So gamma is the only type of radiation which really is a problem..

Also, regarding radiation, I found this after a little research:

On March 24, 2004, Eglin Air Force Base Munitions Directorate official Kenneth Edwards spoke at the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts. During the speech, Edwards ostensibly emphasized a potential property of positron weaponry, a type of antimatter weaponry: Unlike thermonuclear weaponry, positron weaponry would leave behind "no nuclear residue", such as the nuclear fallout generated by the nuclear fission reactions which power nuclear weapons. According to an article in San Francisco Chronicle, Edwards has granted funding specifically for positron weapons technology development, focusing research on ways to store positrons for long periods of time, a significant technical and scientific difficulty.

Also, size wise:

One millionth of a gram of positrons contain as much energy as 37.8 kilograms (83 pounds) of TNT, according to Edwards' March speech. A simple calculation, then, shows that about 50-millionths of a gram could generate a blast equal to the explosion (roughly 4,000 pounds of TNT, according to the FBI) at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995.

Doing some quick computations, that's about 18.8 megatons of TNT per pound of anti-matter. For the record, the largest nuclear weapon ever tested was approximately 57 megatons in size. You wouldn't even need missiles to deliever the stuff, suitcases or small packages would work fine. Really sort of a game-breaking weapon. Take it for whatever it's worth for future reference.

 

[Goober]

So you are saying that Stormy could easily take out the world, provided hbe spent enough to make a lot of this stuff. Stormy, you have the power of ending this NES in your hands . . .

 

[blackheart]

This is getting unrealistic. I want to know how Stormy can get enough antimatter, let alone develop it into a weapon. You do realize that if antimatter touches normal matter at all (basically anything) it will detonate?

 

[alex994]

has anyone read angels and demons? that book provides a very good way to store anti-matter.

EDIT: using magnetic fields on all four sides of a specially designed container to keep the anti-matter fom touching anything

 

[BananaLee]

Thing is, why hasn't anyone done it yet?

I'm slightly uncomfortable with the 'future technology' thingie. But then, from this stage onwards, we haven't got anything 'real' to base our speculation on.
Indeed, the pace of development in this game is extremely fast. Eventually, we'd be 1000 years ahead technologically by the year 2000.
I'm sticking with this NES for now, but if Stormy can play around with wild speculation and theory of anti-matter, I can come up with a whole new physics set for FTL transport.

 

[Symphony D.]

lurker's comment: That would be how you do it. Of course another problem is because of quantum physics, random particles pop into and fade out of existence all the time. As a result, whatever warhead you had might slowly lose strength from that effect, though it's unlikely it'd be enough to cause accidental detonation

Regardless, even a pound of antimatter, well targetted, could easily be used to wipe out the governmental buildings of every opposing nation on Earth through thimble-sized warheads, assuming you got the containment field small enough. So, yes, if Stormbringer really wanted to end the game, I couldn't really see a way of stopping him at this point... backpack bombs as is can hardly be stopped, stopping postage-stamp bombs wouldn't be any easier.

This also isn't really theoretical, BananaLee, though I'd say whatever method Stormbringer sold Goober on is, since all the cyclotrons on Earth working together would take a million years to make a gram of antimatter. But whatever.

 

[alex994]

*sighs* goes off to reread Angels and Demons to keep up with the technical language.