GOTM 28 Spoiler 3 - Modern Age / End Game Submitted

[gozpel]

Vad sager du, din mupp?

Jag e Goteborgare sen fodseln. Och dessutom GAISare!

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Translation:

What are you saying, you muppet?

I'm a Gothenburger since birth.

GAISare means a supporter of the city's best soccer team
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Conclusion:

I am Swedish and email is swedish as well.

I think he wins tho by age, but I beat his overall score.




And last, Sweden made another great game against Albania, lost 1-2. Heja Sverige!

Sverige is the Swedish name of our country, are we allowed to say it like this ? Sweden...is english.

York is Swedish ( Well, the vikings took that city and renamed as Yorrik.

This is actually spam, so I stop here.

 

[Email10]

Hehe I know that one was coming Gozpel

I will probably not have time to post my report until next week, but I can give you this much:
Gozpel beat me by two years

 

[AlanH]

Originally posted by pindicator
....launched my Space Ship in 1961.

Only problem is I can't get my score of 2502 to show in the Hall of Fame on my comp. Is that just a GOTM deal, or is my Civ3 messing up on me?

Contratulations. Great recovery.

GOTMs count as modified games, so they don't appear in your hall of fame. There's a way to edit them into the hof text file if you know the format. It's been published here before, but I've no idea how to find it with the search switched off.

 

[BerzerkerJoe]

Sorry ignore this

 

[BerzerkerJoe]

Cultural 20K Victory
Date 1874.

I chose Deli as my cultural center. There are as I see it three advantages and one disadvantage to doing this:

Advantages
1. Cultural Value of the palace: My palace added 774 culture to my city. Equivalent to 7/8 turns.
2. Earlier temple/first wonder build. Therefore the temple will be adding culture earlier and will be adding double culture earlier.
3. Lower corruption - probably not a big factor as the cultural city is likely to be the city closest to your capital.

The disadvantage is obviously the inability to use the palace pre build.

Anyway here is a detailed list of the cultural building I had in Deli

Building Date built Total Culture added

Palace 3950 BC 774
Temple 3300 BC 1490
Oracle 1650 BC 2588
Pyramids 975 BC 2348
Great Lib 70 BC 2796
Library 30 BC 1380
Great Wall 190 AD 854
Colleseum 290 AD 812
Cathedral 340 AD 1176
Sistine Chap 710 AD 1698
University 950 AD 756
Bach's 1020 AD 1092
Copernicus 1190 AD 660
Shakesperes 1360 AD 1104
Theory of Ev 1700 AD 216
Hoover Dam 1768 AD 106
Intel Agency 1786 AD 44
Wall St 1800 AD 74
UN 1850 AD 48


Also here is a list of the date compared to my total culture. Might be good to compare different stratagies:

Date Culture

1175BC 390
610 BC 702
470 BC 810
360 AD 2029
440 AD 2333
720 AD 3403
950 AD 4427
1280 AD 4427
1425 AD 8858
1655 AD 12466
1770 AD 15014
1874 AD 20016

As to how I could have improved.
As I see it, any time spent not building wonders or rushing other cultural buildings is wasted time. I had a number of periods of this wasted time in my game, due to no wonders being avaliable (palace prebuild would be really handy here).
Also my tech pace later on was far too slow - had it been faster I could have built more cultural buildings and earlier too. My empire was simply too small to get a fast tech pace.
I got one Great Leader in this game (used him to rush Bach's Cathedral). A more aggressive player could have gotten more.

Anyway thanks go to Ainwood and the team for a great map - I particularly enjoyed trying to defend my few cities with spearmen/archers from invading importals earlier on while my capital was out of commision building the Great Lib

 

[Megalou]

Originally posted by gozpel
York is Swedish ( Well, the vikings took that city and renamed as Yorrik.

Alas, poor Yorrik. And here's another quote: "Siiiiiide? I am on nooobody's siiiiiiide..." Well, not anymore... Not a single å,ä or ö to give you away, gozpel. My last quote comes from Monty Python: "Spam,Spam,Spam,Spam,Spam,Spam, wonderful thing called SPAM - what? - ooops.

Moderator Action: Cut the spam: all of you. - you have been warned.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[ainwood]

Originally posted by AlanH

Contratulations. Great recovery.

GOTMs count as modified games, so they don't appear in your hall of fame. There's a way to edit them into the hof text file if you know the format. It's been published here before, but I've no idea how to find it with the search switched off.

Aeson posted this a while back:

Originally posted by Aeson
Open up the HighScores.cv3 file and add a line like this:

Brennus 25 2866 3 4 1

[u]Name      Civ(Color)  Score  Difficulty  VictoryType   Victory/Loss[/u]
Brennus       25       2866       3            4             1

Color: 0-31, matches up to the way they are listed in the editor.
Difficulty: 0-5 Chieftain-Deity
VictoryType: Domination(0), Conquest(1), Cultural(2), Diplomatic(3), Spacerace(4), Retired(5), Histograph(6)
Victory: 1 Loss: 0

Note: The highscores.cv3 file is simply a text file - right-click and select 'open', and when asked what to open it with, choose 'notepad' or 'wordpad'.

 

[denyd]

Congrats to Gozpel - beat me by about 70 years - my 20K cultural came in around 1890AD - I'll post more w/screenshots later, but I wanted to send a BIG WELL DONE to Ainwood and the team for a very enjoyable GOTM.

The resource placement and the opponents made what could have been a walk in the park a nailbiter.

 

[pindicator]

Thanks ainwood! And thanks again for the map!

 

[test_specimen]

ptw1.27open

It is so long ago, that I finished this game, that I had to look up what I did last in the middle ages. However, as I said, the Persians still had some cities in the south, but were no threat to me. My reputation was so bad, I had alternate wars with the different nations and had to sustain a big fleet to hinder them from attacking me. The Celts moved with the crowd and also declared war on me, so I loaded some Tanks on a boat and shipped them to their island. I erased them and transportet most of the tanks back to my homeland to finally eliminate the Persians.

This did not improve my reputation either, but I managed to keep a status quo with the other large nation, the Babylonians. I built the UN just so no one else gets it first and upgraded my tanks to modern armor. Since I had a huge tech lead, the island to the west was no problem and both Karthage and Rome fell.

Since the Babylonians were already building the Spaceship I moved quickly and finished in the 1990s with a rather low score.

Mistakes made in this age: improvement before attack, did not trade enough to improve reputation, not decisive enough against Babylonians when I had the advantage of Modern Armor.

 

[barbslinger]

Originally posted by test_specimen
This did not improve my reputation either, but I managed to keep a status quo with the other large nation, the Babylonians.

What in the world did you do so different to cause the Babs to be a large nation? I, likr a lot of others saw Greece become the power on the other continent.

 

[OldieMagee]

I just finished the GOTM28 and on the same turn my people overthrew my government and the game ended with the winning government an Anarchy.

Holy crap!
I've never heard of anything like that before.
We had been at war for hundreds and hundreds of years and I had pretty much stopped my science research to keep the luxury rate at 90%.

Just had to post something because I've never laughed so hard at a civ campaign. My "Oh sh!t" at the anarchy notification turned right over into a roar of laughter when I got the victory notice.

-Chris

 

[AlanH]

Great fun! Should have been posted in the final spoiler thread and will probably get moved there, but thanks for the laugh anyway!

 

[Lance]

1.29f, open

I just (or a few hours ago) submitted my very first GOTM game. Overall, I'm not very experienced in Civ, and I think that shows in the way I'm playing. I can't reylly play focused on a certain victory, I just go without any greater plans. After reading some of your posts, I think I will be able to change that.

I also didn't take any notes while playing, so I don't describe how my game went, other than I managed to get the spaceship victory 1858 AD with firaxis score of 2786. (After reading about launch in 1550AD by highdesert I can only say that there is much room for impovement in my game!)

Anyway, It was a great game, and I will definetely keep playing the future GOTMs too.

 

[pindicator]

Greece was nothing in my game, just a trapped little nation. The Ottomans were the problem for my game; they took over Germany quickly, and then half of Greece and most of Babylon in the end. They were even keeping up (a little) in the tech race.

 

[Raijer]

Ok, so I've wrapped up my first GOTM, as well as my first game in Monarch. Happy to say I won, but the victory was an ugly one.

As reported in my AA report, I destroyed the Persians early, right before I slipped into the MA. My suicide galleys sank all the way through the MA (until the turn before Navigation), so I was isolated and alone for a very long time. As this was my first Monarch game, I figured my AI rivals would be bigger, stronger, richer and smarter than I. As I was in a good position to build in basic peace, I thought either a culture win or a space race win would be my best bets, and decided firlmy on space race as I missed out on too many early wonders due to my war with the X-man.

So, before the right before the IA starts, I'm finally introduced to everyone else in the world, and lo and behold, I'm waaaaaaay out in front. I lead in tech, power, points, the whole deal.

This is where my game gets ugly. Now that I see my score, see how productive I am, all of a sudden, a space race seems... boring. That's when the ISA, or Invisible Seventh Advisor, popped up. You know him and his advise well: "Look how POWERFUL you are! You can CRUSH them all!!! Mwahahahahahaa!"

I listened, and I changed tactics. I would shoot for domination.

I entrenched myself on the other major continent by taking the Ottoman's last two cities. Easy enough, so from there it would be on to conquer 2nd place Greeks. I was confident that my advanced Modern Armor would cut through Alex's infantry, especially in the numbers I brought to his gates. I was wrong.

Alex put up a hell of a fight. The RNG Gods, who had favored me so during my AA war with the Persians had now foresaken me. The Greeks seemed to have an endless supply of infantry. My huge force of Modern Armor was reduced to almost half its original number during two very long, very disheartening tuns. I was victorious, yes, but at great cost. Long story short: My invasion of Greece stalls in its tracks only a third of the way through.

Successful yet unproductive war waged through the first half of the Modern Age. The world dispised me (good thing I had the UN). This was NOT the game I had originally planned on, and I knew damn well that the fault was completely mine.

I changed tactics, and abandoned my domination plans, returning to the original Space Race. In 1860, I launched the ship and won - Firaxis score: 3033. I was so frazzled that I forgot to save the game - d'oh! Now I'll have to wait until next month to actually submit my first game.

Next time, I plan on deciding on a tactic and STICKING to it, as I know I should do anyway.

Anyway, very enthusiastic thumbs up to the entire GOTM crew. Ugly as my playing was, it still re-kindled my interest in the game big-time. Thank you so much for a great tiime, and I look forward to playing next month.

 

[AlanH]

Originally posted by Raijer
I was so frazzled that I forgot to save the game - d'oh! Now I'll have to wait until next month to actually submit my first game.

Well Done! If Autosave was on you should have the last autosave before vistory. You can replay teh last turn the way you did before to create the save and submit.

 

[Raijer]

I do have the last turn .sav before the victory launch, I just assumed that playing the last turn again would be considered a ver-bote-en reload . Didn't want to start off on the wrong foot and all.

Thanks Alan, I'll submit tomorrow!

 

[AlanH]

I'm awake now, so I'll try to reduce the typos in this one

Reloading to change an outcome is cheating and forbidden.
Reloading to recover from a crash is permitted as long as it happens rarely.
Reloading to replay the last turn of a won game is permissible as long as that's all you're doing. Several people get to the last turn and crash because they failed to swap pediaicons.txt files, for example. Swapping the files allows them to replay the last turn to the finish. It would be favourite if they got the file swap right first time, but it would be very harsh to ban their game, or yours, after all that hard work.

 

[test_specimen]

Originally posted by barbslinger


What in the world did you do so different to cause the Babs to be a large nation? I, likr a lot of others saw Greece become the power on the other continent.

I'm not quite sure about that either. I think it was the trading. I only traded to nations, where I got a benefit, and didn't gift it to the last nation, that didn't have the tech. From the timeline I learnt, that the Babylonians were a medium nation, but then took the continent within several turns. I think, I must have traded some essential military tech to them. Greece never got too strong in my game and the Babylonians finished them rather quickly.

The last GOTM was similar for some players, where the Oda played a crucial role or not.