GOTM 38 Pre-Game discussion

[Tone]

I think I miss the Gotm38 again because have a little free time and want to win Cotm07 with Diplo.

I just had to reply to this. I would be really keen to know how you altered your playing style from your previous and highly successful C/GOTMs and whether it was for the whole game or for just the latter stages. Please could you let us know?

 

[Tone]

... even the slider will not help I guess . There will be definitely need to connect to some luxury asap.

My advice is research at min, switch off the city gov and use the slider as much as you need to. (Maybe as much as 50/60%). If you get that settler factory up and running asap you can the claim the luxuries earlier and then get them connected for the middle game. Before that get your workers to develop your key cities and worry about luxes once you have key improvements made. Getting plenty of cities with roads is going to quickly recoup the gold you spent on entertainment in the early turns and also place you in a much stronger position than stunting early growth just to keep your population happy w/o using the slider.

 

[WetSawdustDemon]

Hmm this looks good for a 20,000 single city culture win, which I’ve never actually managed yet. I’m still trying to decide whether to try it with the first city or use that as a worker pump for the second city, surrounded hopefully by hills. I guess a lot depends on what sort of land we have surrounding us.

So I was thinking of doing something like this:

Settle in place
Build order: Warrior, Settler, Granary, Warrior, Settlers & Workers as needed

The second city will be the 20K city and so will start a temple straight away (or at least the prebuild for it) and wonders all the way thereafter.

Oh and yeah don’t be afraid to use the slider for keeping people happy, better that than to slow your growth using entertainers.

Anyways it is looking like a good start Ainwood, just please no backstabbing Germans this time please?

 

[Xerol]

Pn a standard map with China wprking a npn-rpaded tile pn a river frpm turn 1 and research at max, Ppttery takes 20 turns. When a rpad cpmes intp play this gets reduced tp spmething in the mid-teens(fprget the exact number frpm my tests). By the time the city gets tp Ppp 2 and is wprking 2 rpaded tiles, Ppttery wpuld be almpst finished. It seems like ypu can dp 2 warriprs and then a barracks pre-build fpr granary right pff; ypu shpuld have ppttery befpre the barracks finishes.

 

[Offa]

Pn a standard map with China wprking a npn-rpaded tile pn a river frpm turn 1 and research at max, Ppttery takes 20 turns. When a rpad cpmes intp play this gets reduced tp spmething in the mid-teens(fprget the exact number frpm my tests). By the time the city gets tp Ppp 2 and is wprking 2 rpaded tiles, Ppttery wpuld be almpst finished. It seems like ypu can dp 2 warriprs and then a barracks pre-build fpr granary right pff; ypu shpuld have ppttery befpre the barracks finishes.

Is your keyboard a special qwertyuipp one by any chance?

 

[solenoozerec]

Is your keyboard a special qwertyuipp one by any chance?

I think his 'o' stuck to 'p' or smth like that. A dead insect maybe?

 

[Xerol]

Shoot. Had a ramen noodle stuck under there, and I'm using a weird font right now, so the os and ps look fairly similar. Fixed now.

 

[eldar]

Shoot. Had a ramen noodle stuck under there, and I'm using a weird font right now, so the os and ps look fairly similar. Fixed now.

Eep. My personal fave is BBQ sauce.

Neil.

 

[Dynamic]

I just had to reply to this. I would be really keen to know how you altered your playing style from your previous and highly successful C/GOTMs and whether it was for the whole game or for just the latter stages. Please could you let us know?

It's true, very hard to change own gameplay stile. Before this time I only once played in IA and begin of Modern Ages not in the GOTM series. My experience is reading the spoilers. And as I understand for reaching good score with later win I must expand early. I choose Diplomacy because it's a first other then Conq/Dom victory type. I wan't the fastest Diplo, I want the high score Diplo. The main problem I see the chance of Diplo lose if remain civs will not select me as leader.

See Cotm07 spoiler for detail.

 

[klarius]

Hmm, a settler and worker as conquest bonus, but no military.
Maybe we are all alone on our island, or at least the AI civs are very far away.

 

[Jove]

Arrrr, or maybe that's one of those mad cows...

 

[mad-bax]

If there is wine in the start radius then you could perhaps mine one of the food resources, since the irrigated wine will give extra food. Then a four turn warrior/settler pump may be possible without a further BG. Maybe I'll play like the AI and mine the cow. Can't load the pictures safely as I am at work, so I'm only going on what has been said.

Probably play the QSC this evening and see if I can submit a game.

Nice difficulty level, and a nice Civ. Already looks like a great game.

 

[Mistfit]

@ ainwood - one small typographical error on the GOTM page for China.

Submissions due by January 15, 2004. PLEASE NOTE THE DATE.

 

[AlanH]

That one I can fix without waiting for ainwood

 

[Mistfit]

seeing that I'm playing in two games with you I thought I'd blame it one someone else

 

[AlanH]

I didn't accept the blame, just fixed the problem.

 

[davidcrazy]

i have a beginner's question though i've been playing this game for a while:
how bad it can go if not using 4-turn settler factory? or more specifically how bad if i don't intentionally set up a 4-turn factory? (i guess with such a good start i'll get 4 turn anyway after irrigating the cow and wheat)

i never really tried to understand the mechanism and am wondering how much it hurts... i guess not sharing the extra bonus will also hurt... thanks!

 

[Vegasgustan]

Is it too late to start playing? Also, since I am a Mac guy using 1.92b what do I need to download to play if I can start? Thanks. CHINA IS MY GOD! 'Nuff Said.
Never mind the above, I read up on it. I guess I should read before I post. Sorry.

 

[AlanH]

@DaveCrazy: It's not a game breaker, it just makes the rest of the game harder work, because you are coming from behind for longer at high difficulty levels. I use a settler factory if I see one, but I'm sure I don't do it as well as the pros here.

There's a thread in the Strategy Articles forum if you want to learn more about them. Also, Bamspeedy's Deity Settlers is still a classic work on setting one up.

 

[AlanH]

Is it too late to start playing? Also, since I am a Mac guy using 1.92b what do I need to download to play if I can start? Thanks. CHINA IS MY GOD! 'Nuff Said.

- Download and install the All-in-One GOTM Installer for Mac OS X linked in my sig. (24 MBytes)

- Go to the link in ainwood's "Saves are available" thread and download the start flle for the player class you want to compete at (Conquest, Open or Predator).

- Check out the Code of Conduct to make sure yuo know the rules you are playing to.

- Play.

- Submit.

Optional:
- Join in the spoilers.

- Submit a 1000 BC save and timeline file for the QSC (Quick Start Challenge)