GPIT 1770AD, Saturday 9/15 3:00 PM PDT (-7) 2200 GMT

DaveShack · Sep 10, 2007

Designated Player: DaveShack
Format: Online, 10 turns
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Backups: Any DP in the pool may play as backup, with precedence in the order listed in the DP pool thread.

dutchfire · Sep 13, 2007

Oops, it's too late to make a poll now :blush:

Anyway: Steam Power - Steel - Railroad please (there seemed to be quite a consensus).

Provolution · Sep 13, 2007

Instructions from Warlord:

THE PROVOPROMO ROME WAR FOR WAR PROMOTIONS

Review all our military units, and only move forwards the following types of units for the conquest of:

Ravenna :
Rome :
Last Roman City:

Only Riflemen that fought in the four first cities will be part of this phase of the war. Riflemen, Macemen and Axemen with 1 XP left before a promotion. If the number of Riflemen, Macemen and Axemen with 1 XP left before promotion is less than 12 units, please add Riflemen, Macemen and Axemen with 2 XP left before promotion up to a maximum of 16 units. The Force should also include the triple city raider and combat promotion Khans Gatebreakers.

This most competitive plan will allow us to max out the value of our units before we enter the quiet phase of our continents economic development. This is why I am so determined to only allow units very close to promotion to participate. The Romans are effectively a scarce resource for allowing these promotions to take place. If there are less Roman units than "hoped for", please prioritize to give the 65 % or more odds kills to the ones with 1 XP left before promotion first, then the 2 XP left. No other forces should act on this (But the most powerful Khans Gatebreakers). Also sacrifice recently produced macemen with "obsolete" promotions first. (cover and shock promotion).

All Catapults will be involved to bring down city defenses and perform collateral damage on defense stacks. Otherwise, the catapults should not engage the enemy.

No cavalry units but those with 1 XP left before a promotion are allowed to be part of the action. This should mostly be spent on actions outside cities on stray Roman units.

DaveShack · Sep 14, 2007

This session is rescheduled due to lack of instructions.

Saturday Sept 15, 1500 PDT (-7), 2200 GMT.

fed1943 · Sep 14, 2007

It looks the site was down.

Must I post my instructions on this thread?

Best regards,

dutchfire · Sep 14, 2007

Yes, you can.

HUSch · Sep 14, 2007

First i vote for 10-20% cultural slider and building of theatre. Nob knows how long the war will be.

If not then look every turn for Xanadu.

Cities
Berlin

the new citizens like on the picture below allways on farming

Build queue: National Epic, taoist cloister

Munich

Build queue: change to confucian missionary, grocer, and worker

Xanadu

Change work tiles like picture

Build queue: change to theatre, Oxford

Cologne

Change work tiles like picture, next citizens on farming

Build queue: troops or missio

Frankfurt

Build queue: Change to Settler then observatorium

Tatar

Change work tiles like picture, when forge is ready and the fishingboat is on the shell work the shell

Build queue: forge, granary (change), lighthouse

Worker
continue, if there are free worker at Munich then irrigate the forest (SE) and plains (SS) and (ESE).

fed1943 · Sep 14, 2007

NOTB - build queue: market-theater

NotA - build queue: jail-colesseum-aqueduct
2 workers there: end windmill-go SW and road-go WSW windmill-go
EEEE farm

EA - build queue: jail-confucian temple-wealth (if/when Wall Street available
build it)
2 workers there: end windmill-go EE farm

Ainu - build queue: university-theater-jail
worker/s: farm and road the plains, clean and cottage the jungles

Clam Cove - build queue: forge-work boat
next pop to NW
1 worker: go E road, then build road to EA road
1 worker: go help Ainu.

Good luck!

grant2004 · Sep 14, 2007

North Western Aimag

I apologize for the delay in my instructions, I've just managed to sort out my technical difficulties and I'll be able to post instructions in detail from now on.

Cities

All cities should keep their initial citizen distributions except for Cumae, here is what their distribution should be.

Build Ques

Cumae: Finish the market, then build a worker and then a missionary of whichever religion we'll need and will fit at that time

Neapolis: Build a Theater, an Observatory, and a University

Pisae: Finish the Missionary, build a Market, and then a Missionary of whichever religion we need and will fit at that time

Marseilles: Finish the University, and build an Observatory.

Cities coming out of revolt are at your discretion, but I'd suggest a courthouse if there doesn't appear anything more critical that needs to be built.

Woker actions

Build a line of irrigation from Neapolis, demolishing the watermill NE of the city in order to access the river, down to the gap in the hills by Marseilles, passing through the rice outside of Pisea

If for any reason that path does not work improvise as you see fit to complete the aim of the project.

Other worker actions are secondary, if time allows or irrigation is impossible build lumbermills on the forest south of Neapolis, and the two forest east of Pisae.

I apologize for the nature of these worker actions I will put in my request for workers now that I can see the save and will hopefully be able to issue worker specific instructions for the next TC.

DaveShack · Sep 15, 2007

Settle coastline as discussed in the thread. The settler on the SE coast may already be on the right spot.

Tech trades may be done which are advantageous to us or no worse than 300 beakers in the other side's favor.

Refuse any demands from others.

Stockpile the Engineer since there wasn't a strong concensus on what to do with him.

DaveShack · Sep 15, 2007

dutchfire said:
Oops, it's too late to make a poll now

Anyway: Steam Power - Steel - Railroad please (there seemed to be quite a consensus).

Provolution said:
Instructions from Warlord:

THE PROVOPROMO ROME WAR FOR WAR PROMOTIONS

Review all our military units, and only move forwards the following types of units for the conquest of:

Ravenna :
Rome :
Last Roman City:

Only Riflemen that fought in the four first cities will be part of this phase of the war. Riflemen, Macemen and Axemen with 1 XP left before a promotion. If the number of Riflemen, Macemen and Axemen with 1 XP left before promotion is less than 12 units, please add Riflemen, Macemen and Axemen with 2 XP left before promotion up to a maximum of 16 units. The Force should also include the triple city raider and combat promotion Khans Gatebreakers.

This most competitive plan will allow us to max out the value of our units before we enter the quiet phase of our continents economic development. This is why I am so determined to only allow units very close to promotion to participate. The Romans are effectively a scarce resource for allowing these promotions to take place. If there are less Roman units than "hoped for", please prioritize to give the 65 % or more odds kills to the ones with 1 XP left before promotion first, then the 2 XP left. No other forces should act on this (But the most powerful Khans Gatebreakers). Also sacrifice recently produced macemen with "obsolete" promotions first. (cover and shock promotion).

All Catapults will be involved to bring down city defenses and perform collateral damage on defense stacks. Otherwise, the catapults should not engage the enemy.

No cavalry units but those with 1 XP left before a promotion are allowed to be part of the action. This should mostly be spent on actions outside cities on stray Roman units.

HUSch said:
First i vote for 10-20% cultural slider and building of theatre. Nob knows how long the war will be.

If not then look every turn for Xanadu.

Cities
Berlin

the new citizens like on the picture below allways on farming

Build queue: National Epic, taoist cloister

Munich

Build queue: change to confucian missionary, grocer, and worker

Xanadu

Change work tiles like picture

Build queue: change to theatre, Oxford

Cologne

Change work tiles like picture, next citizens on farming

Build queue: troops or missio

Frankfurt

Build queue: Change to Settler then observatorium

Tatar

Change work tiles like picture, when forge is ready and the fishingboat is on the shell work the shell

Build queue: forge, granary (change), lighthouse

Worker
continue, if there are free worker at Munich then irrigate the forest (SE) and plains (SS) and (ESE).

fed1943 said:
NOTB - build queue: market-theater

NotA - build queue: jail-colesseum-aqueduct
2 workers there: end windmill-go SW and road-go WSW windmill-go
EEEE farm

EA - build queue: jail-confucian temple-wealth (if/when Wall Street available
build it)
2 workers there: end windmill-go EE farm

Ainu - build queue: university-theater-jail
worker/s: farm and road the plains, clean and cottage the jungles

Clam Cove - build queue: forge-work boat
next pop to NW
1 worker: go E road, then build road to EA road
1 worker: go help Ainu.

Good luck!

grant2004 said:
North Western Aimag

I apologize for the delay in my instructions, I've just managed to sort out my technical difficulties and I'll be able to post instructions in detail from now on.

Cities

All cities should keep their initial citizen distributions except for Cumae, here is what their distribution should be.

Build Ques

Cumae: Finish the market, then build a worker and then a missionary of whichever religion we'll need and will fit at that time

Neapolis: Build a Theater, an Observatory, and a University

Pisae: Finish the Missionary, build a Market, and then a Missionary of whichever religion we need and will fit at that time

Marseilles: Finish the University, and build an Observatory.

Cities coming out of revolt are at your discretion, but I'd suggest a courthouse if there doesn't appear anything more critical that needs to be built.

Woker actions

Build a line of irrigation from Neapolis, demolishing the watermill NE of the city in order to access the river, down to the gap in the hills by Marseilles, passing through the rice outside of Pisea

If for any reason that path does not work improvise as you see fit to complete the aim of the project.

Other worker actions are secondary, if time allows or irrigation is impossible build lumbermills on the forest south of Neapolis, and the two forest east of Pisae.

I apologize for the nature of these worker actions I will put in my request for workers now that I can see the save and will hopefully be able to issue worker specific instructions for the next TC.

DaveShack said:
Settle coastline as discussed in the thread. The settler on the SE coast may already be on the right spot.

Tech trades may be done which are advantageous to us or no worse than 300 beakers in the other side's favor.

Refuse any demands from others.

Stockpile the Engineer since there wasn't a strong concensus on what to do with him.

Session starting now, after I reboot my game computer.

DaveShack · Sep 15, 2007

Preturn save. Wow, that took 1.5 hours by itself! :eek:

Granted, this was while my kids were bugging me about the rain, but even so it's a long time.

Update: 3 hours 45 minutes in, middle of turn 5. Ravenna has fallen, Rome teeters on the brink. 2 promotions earned, one 9/10 rifle lost at 75% odds. Taking some time for pizza.

Update: 7:43 PM, turn 5 complete. Rome has fallen, might have the odds to finish the Romans next turn.

The Romans were destroyed on the next turn. It's now time to stop to make the final decision on civics changes.
Ending save

Spoiler chat log :

Summary:

Ran at 20% culture to improve WW.
Captured the 3 Roman cities. Rome is now history.
Built 2 cities on the coast.
The Incas landed but haven't built their city yet. We've forced them into the jungle area between EA, Clam Cove, City#1, City#2.
Aztecs and Incas are at war.
National Epic built.
Railroads are due in 6 turns, but we can probably lower culture and get there faster.

The 9/10 XP plan generated 2-3 10/10 promotions. We had terrible RNG with a couple of 9/10 XP battles where we lost at 75% and 99.9% odds. A couple of 7/10 "shock troops" who were supposed to lose won, which worsened the promotion odds even more.

The XP / Promotion rule is that when you have the 17xp promotion and upgrade, your unit drops back to 10/26.

ordinaryguy · Sep 16, 2007

Did you change the two farms east of Coppertown next to the rice to workshops?

Provolution · Sep 16, 2007

congratulations, the continent is ours, I hope you sent the "almost promoted" units to the front

HUSch · Sep 16, 2007

Good, the war has end, the WW also in the next turn.
Now we can plan the cities better.

dutchfire · Sep 16, 2007

RIP Caesar

Why did you place city #2 where it is?

DaveShack · Sep 16, 2007

dutchfire said:
Why did you place city #2 where it is?

The Inca were standing 1S of that tile at the time. It was either give them the coastal spot, or force them inland where they can be surrounded.

DaveShack · Sep 16, 2007

ordinaryguy said:
Did you change the two farms east of Coppertown next to the rice to workshops?

Sorry, I missed that. Going back to last term, I still think we need a better way of organizing worker instructions.

DaveShack · Sep 16, 2007

Provolution said:
I hope you sent the "almost promoted" units to the front

All the healed almost promoted I could find, and the CR2's I could find. It was mixed success, with a couple of shocking losses among the almost promoted at high success odds :mad:

, but a couple of new promotions earned.

Provolution · Sep 16, 2007

All in all, fair enough all considered. I think we should consider disbanding the warriors and archers with no promotions, to save gold per turn. In fact, I want to do that, and garrison the cities with some unused promotion macemen/riflemen that could be used as city garrisons, as well as obsoleted axemen/macemen (cover and shock) that could serve as inland garrisons.

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