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Dai Chuanxian: "If you were anyone but Madame Sun [Yat-sen], we would cut your head off."

Sòng Qìnglíng: "If you were the revolutionaries you claim to be, you'd cut it off anyway."

-From Sterling Seagrave, The Soong Dynasty
 
Republican China is a most interesting period.

"When we fight, we first use bullets;
When the bullets are gone we use bayonets;
When the bayonets are dull, we use the rifle barrel;
When this is broken, we use our fists;
When our fists are broken, we bite."
- Motto of the 大刀队 (Big Sword Unit) of General Feng Yuxiang.
 
Republican China is a most interesting period.

"When we fight, we first use bullets;
When the bullets are gone we use bayonets;
When the bayonets are dull, we use the rifle barrel;

When this is broken, we use our fists;
When our fists are broken, we bite."
- Motto of the 大刀队 (Big Sword Unit) of General Feng Yuxiang.

The British, meanwhile, sharpen their bayonets.
 
"We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France." - Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington
 
"Firstly you must always implicitly obey orders, without attempting to form any opinion of your own regarding their propriety. Secondly, you must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king; and thirdly you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil." - Horatio Nelson, to a midshipman aboard the Agamemnon (1793)
 
"Firstly you must always implicitly obey orders, without attempting to form any opinion of your own regarding their propriety. Secondly, you must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king; and thirdly you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil." - Horatio Nelson, to a midshipman aboard HMS Agamemnon (1793)

Depressingly like Theirs not to reason why, Theirs not to make reply, Theirs but to to do and die. Approximately 100 years later, another of the greatest of the British officers - the Lord Roberts - would set out the following, which is a cornerstone of the doctrine of just about every modern army:

Success in war cannot be expected unless all ranks have been trained in peace to use their wits. Generals and Commanding Officers are therefore not only to encourage their subordinates by affording them constant opportunities of acting on their own responsibilities, but they must also check all practices which interfere with the free exercise of their judgement, and will break down by every means in their power the paralysing bait of an unreasonable and mechanical adherence to the letter of orders and to routine.
 
Depressingly like Theirs not to reason why, Theirs not to make reply, Theirs but to to do and die. Approximately 100 years later, another of the greatest of the British officers - the Lord Roberts - would set out the following, which is a cornerstone of the doctrine of just about every modern army:

Success in war cannot be expected unless all ranks have been trained in peace to use their wits. Generals and Commanding Officers are therefore not only to encourage their subordinates by affording them constant opportunities of acting on their own responsibilities, but they must also check all practices which interfere with the free exercise of their judgement, and will break down by every means in their power the paralysing bait of an unreasonable and mechanical adherence to the letter of orders and to routine.

I do remember reading that one of the strengths of the Royal Navy in this period was the ability of Captains to improvise (perhaps not the right word) with regards to carrying out their orders, there was indeed some flexibility. Oh and yes, HMS Agamemnon. :p
 
I do remember reading that one of the strengths of the Royal Navy in this period was the ability of Captains to improvise (perhaps not the right word) with regards to carrying out their orders, there was indeed some flexibility.
Eh. The Royal Navy liked to think it was Nelsonic and that it had erased the "pernicious" influence of the reviled Fighting Instructions, but hahahahahahaha
 
Eh. The Royal Navy liked to think it was Nelsonic and that it had erased the "pernicious" influence of the reviled Fighting Instructions, but hahahahahahaha

Believe it or not, the biggest gripe of the modern, educated junior officer is that the military may preach 'mission command' and the virtues of allowing junior commanders to exercise their own judgement, but Commanding Officers still insist on controlling what goes on down to very low level. And Roberts was speaking in 1902!
 
It wasn't an issue of micromanagement (which is impossible in the context of 1805 naval battles lol) but of initiative, where it was possessed (not often) being squashed by tactical dicta
 
"Some men see things as they are and say why? I dream things that never were and say why not?"

Ted Kennedy in Eulogy for RFK. It is a paraphrase of a paraphrase of a line from a Shaw play but it is very inspiring idea.
 
"Ships gone, Mindaros dead, men starving; don't know what to do."
-Hippokrates, Spartan navarchos [admiral; Mindaros' second-in-command], message to Sparta, following the battle of Kyzikos (410 BC)

Xen. Hellenika I.1.23
 
"Bureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time when the quo has lost its status." ~ Laurence J. Peter, Canadian author (1919 - 1990)
 
"Ships gone, Mindaros dead, men starving; don't know what to do."
-Hippokrates, Spartan navarchos [admiral; Mindaros' second-in-command], message to Sparta, following the battle of Kyzikos (410 BC)

Xen. Hellenika I.1.23

Message from beseiged Irish soldiers in Jadotville, Congo, 1961:

We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey!
 
"Bureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time when the quo has lost its status." ~ Laurence J. Peter, Canadian author (1919 - 1990)
I've never heard that one before. I like it.

On the topic of bureaucracy:

"I should have known you would refuse to follow proper procedure and come here. And I did know. Which is why I came here." - Morgan Proctor, Bureaucrat Grade 19.
 
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