Robert Can't
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Yep, completely right about Englishness I just had absolutely no idea what to Arabic
Yep, completely right about Englishness I just had absolutely no idea what to Arabic
And there goes the last vestiges of TE's Rome idea
RIP in peace.
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It doesn't have to be Arabic. They are Celts, so you could use a Celtish name.
I think Albiyun should be a good variation, as a possible Arabic transcription of a Greek transcription of a Celtic name.
Also, we could have a surviving Ba-Shu speaking state in Sichuan or a Tibetan-influenced kingdom or anything really, since Sichuan was somehow a mildly attractive place for exiled refugees.
And in response, here are my suggestions for East and Southeast Asian cultures:
Spoiler :Han:
-Chu Han
-Qi Han
-Qin Han
-[Ba-Shu?]
-[Sino-Japanese? for Hata clan]
Shiwei:
-Hyung
-Syanbye
-Testveri (Magyar) [presumably would have close cultural interaction like the Turks within the Mongol Empire]
Tibeto-Burman [needs a better name]:
-Gyong (Yi)
-Qiang
-Tibetan
-Pyu {210 (primary culture, central)}
-Sein {210 (northwest)}
Tai:
-Tai Luang (Shan) {209}
-Tai Muong (Lao, Siamese) {211, 212?}
-Tai Rau (renamed from Tai Ruong)
Bak Yuet:
-Hmou (respelled to keep coherence)
-Min Yuet
-Nam Yuet
Tocharian should probably be in the same cultural group as the Indo-Greek descendants and possibly Central Asian cultures.
Matgat (Mohe) would fit under a Tungusic cultural group if it exists.
As for Dan (Korean), it could plausibly fit under Tungusic or Japanese (if it's still one group) through cultural diffusion
As for the Buddhism thing, an issue is that the "Dharmic" and "Eastern" religious groups aren't really that separate either. Adherents of Shinto and Shenism get along as well with Buddhists as Jains and Hindus do. It's more of a gradient if anything else. As such, if were to make them one religious group, it WOULD make more sense to split up Buddhism into various sects. Regardless, we should probably raise the tolerance of "heretics" modifier to 3 and above to outweigh the default -2 modifier.
Spoiler :(My personal pet peeve is the nonsensical "religion" of "Confucianism")
Also, I don't think the Dutch mechanics were discussed yet. What would be a good candidate? Somewhere between monarchy and republic with a focus on trade, so Carthage(?) perhaps? Or with what we have currently, Tuunghai has the most conspicuous position out of all the republics, so it could be a reflection of a republican system descended from a monarchy.
I think we should reorganize Germanic and the Europeans Pagans into one religious group, "European". All of these would share the Piety Mechanic (except for the Norse), but they would have different static bonuses, for example the Insular Celts could have a tolerance bonus while the Germanics could have a Manpower and Forcelimit boost to represent their horde-y nature.
Also I was thinking about Techgroups. I imagine later in development we might want to make fully fleshed out techgroups with newly named and balanced units and such, but for version 0.1 I think it would just be prudent to use renamed Here's my ideas so far:
Imperial Greek +0% Tech Cost (Equivalent to Western) - Used by the HRE and other Imperial Greek states like Ireland. Considering the possible fragility of the Greek, you might want a Westernization Event in even of their annexation so the world isn't doomed to tech stagnation.
Western Greek +20% Tech Cost (Equivalent to Eastern) - Used by nations with Western Greek state religion. Muslim Rome might use this one as well considering they are culturally Roman.
Eastern Greek +25% Tech Cost (Equivalent to Ottoman) - Used by nations with Easter Greek state religion.
Abrahamic +40% Tech Cost (Equivalent to Muslim) - Used by nations in the Abrahamic Religious Group, except those in Europe.
European +50% Tech Cost (Equivalent to Indian) - Used by nations in Europe with the Abrahamic or European Religious Groups, with the (maybe) exception of Spain and Muslim Italy.
Asian +70% Tech Cost (Equivalent to Chinese) - Used by all of Asia, including India. Also, even if we don't expand this techgroup to India, can we please rename it to Asian anyway? Someone on Paradox Plaza must have read too much of Chirstos' propaganda because China =/= Japan.
All other techgroups (i.e Native Ones and Hordes) would be the same. What do you guys think?
I kind of imagined pagan Europe to be in the nomad tech group, with Central Europe and Dacia being in the Indian equivalent. I think Western should just be the Hellenosphere (including Muslim Italy and Anatolia), Eastern being Muslim Europe and the Near East (Mediterranean, or rather, Mesogeiaki), and Ottoman includes North Africa, the British Isles and perhaps the Middle East. I suggest making Central Asia + India + Northern China + Japan the Muslim equivalent as well.
After all, there should be some colonial power that's not stuck in theGibraltarHerakleian bottleneck.
Not republicanism per se (in terms of representation), but confederalism and parliamentarism are definitely well documented in East Asian history before the time-frame of this mod, which I think is good enough for the in-game republican mechanics.(Does the concept of republicanism exist in Eastern political thought at all?)
Hmm...@Krzowwh: Sino-Yamato or Sino-Yamatai for the Hata sounds better to me.
Hmm...
Yamato or Yamatai sounds really native Japanese (which it is, but you know). As a Qin descendant, I think calling the culture Fusou (扶桑would be a good idea.
Not republicanism per se (in terms of representation), but confederalism and parliamentarism are definitely well documented in East Asian history before the time-frame of this mod, which I think is good enough for the in-game republican mechanics.
Also in terms of naming, a Greek-dominated civilization would probably think of the Near East as the "default" Asian, rather than the immigration-influenced term we use in English. So for both the religious group and technology group I would suggest something like "Indo-Seric".
As for the HRE, something involving Panhellenes?
Would anyone mind if I ask Thorvarld to set up an SVN for us? He seems to know what he is doing in that department.