Guess the New Civs

BTW, and I'll put it here. As disappointed as I am that Dido is the leader of Carthage, I love her leader screen with the Cothon in the background. That's quite cool.

I wonder, given the addition of Attila and the Huns, if they're adding a Horse Archer unit (I'm thinking as a generic, although possibly as a Hun UU).
 
PCG: But there are a couple religious scenarios.

Beach: We have one that highlights the religion system and how to mod it. We have another one—the Celts and the Huns and the Byzantines—we’re introducing that set of three new civilizations and we decided that a fall of Rome scenario would be perfect. And then the third scenario we’re shipping with is an interesting departure. We actually have a steampunk Victorian-era science fiction scenario that’s an interesting departure from the usual historical fare.
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Sounds like the Huns are definitely in to me.
 
Louis XXIV said:
Needless to say (from what I've said before), I'm extraordinarily disappointed with Dido. You have Theodra and Boudicca, you don't need Dido too. Plus, the other two were almost certainly real (while Dido, even if I'm being generous, is certainly uncorroborated except for by Roman fiction).
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With inclusion of Boudica, Dido and Theodora we only have seven female leaders (Catherine, Elisabeth, Wu Zetian and Isabella) and about 25 male leaders. So the seven females definitely aren't too much. Adds some nice flavor and variety. :)


Deggial said:
Here, we might have the cover art for G&K. The lady on the left (not the interviewer ;)) probably is Boudicca. But what about the guy on the right? Isn't this a Hun? IIRC, the cap is quite typical.
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Very cool cover! Where can I buy a poster of that! :D
Yes, definitely Attila the Hun.
 
You mentioned spy’s intrigue system, which lets us peek at what the AI is planning. How will that work in multiplayer?

Beach: Yeah, intrigue doesn’t work in multiplayer. You picked up on that.

PCG: Is it completely turned off, or could we use it on AI opponents?

Beach: I think the current plan is just to have it turned off.
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For me, this is worse than the Huns civ...I like to play with friends and not having all the possibilities of spionage is disappointing.
 
The Huns confirmed, 3 left right? Man i really expect that a modern civilization will be included.

No spy in multiplayer? seriously?

They gonna repair the f multiplayer?

just bad news IMO.
 
Yeah, just intrigue.

But most of the time I play with 2, 3 friends and 5, 6 AI. It would be sweet to know the plans of the AIs.
 
WillBill said:
The Huns confirmed, 3 left right? Man i really expect that a modern civilization will be included.
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Austria-Hungary or something of that ilk would fit really well with the broadened focus on WWI, but they might have to repurpose some city names from Germany.

Still holding out hope for Charlemagne and the Holy Roman Empire, but pre-modern Europe is getting pretty well-represented now. :(
 
My guess now:

1- huns (confirmed)
2- Austria, Austria-hungary, Poland (some european power because of the new scenary)
3- Zulu, Ethiopia
4 -I would like to see a south american civ, but I think we will have another asian one like Indonesia, Khmer...
 
You can't really have any South American Civ without first having Brazil, and you can't have Brazil without first having Portugal. But it's a future DLC possibility - Portugal will be in for sure at some point.
 
Assuming that steampunk Victorian-era science fiction would try to represent most of the world,instead of being restricted to Eurasia,then I'd assume they would need to include Brazil to represent that huge territory on Eastern south America . There are some reasons to do it:


- They couldn't use Portugal instead Brazil,because Brazil was already separated from Portugal and Portugal is too small to be represented(that why they showed Lisbon as a city state);
- Rio de Janeiro is not big enough to represent ALL the brazilian territory(Brazil isn't just Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo) ;
- Brazil didn't have a strong tech lagging at that time,if compared with other Non-European nations,with the obvious exception of USA and Japan;


For African continent,there might be both Zulu and Ethiopia . Then Fill the gap between the empires with as many city states as you can and you can represent this scenario very well .
 
blackcatatonic said:
You can't really have any South American Civ without first having Brazil, and you can't have Brazil without first having Portugal. But it's a future DLC possibility - Portugal will be in for sure at some point.
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I dont see the necessity of Portugal appears first. Yes they "found" Brazil but we need to think that in the new scenario Brazil has a huge influence and Portugal used to be a important mercantile country and now not so important in world scenario.

But i really think that Brazil dont be one of the missing civs.
 
I'm a little calmed down. Even if it is a fact now that they will include the Huns...
With good UA and UU choices they can be made into a very enjoyable civ after all - gameplay wise

Still pretty upset about a couple consequences though, and the Huns have a couple very big disadvantages compared to other civs:

- The language. Virtually nothing is known about it. I don't see it replaced with anything else either. What would they use for them??
Seriously, I will mod them out if they use a modern and not-too-wellknown european language from the hunnic-controlled territories

- The cities. For Civ IV we made a city list for a Hun mod, and we put a lot of research into it.
No real hunnic cities of course - that's virtually non-existent - only research on the names of the occupied cities.
We got a list in the end, but still, it was very unstatisfiing. There is just not enough info on them...

- It kinda ruins the later chances of 2 much more fitting and important civs
Hungary as a great medieval european power with very rich history and unique culture (also the perfect choice for the Medieval scenario), and the already mentioned Khazaria
The Khazars would have been the best choice by far if they wanted to add a "proper" semi-nomadic civ
Both would have been great additions, now I don't see any real chances for them - not even later as DLCs :(

EDIT: Now I think the last 3 civs will be:
Either Austria (steampunk scenario) or Poland (medieval scenario)
Ethiopia (religion)
Hittite or Sumeria
 
WillBill said:
I dont see the necessity of Portugal appears first. Yes they "found" Brazil but we need to think that in the new scenario Brazil has a huge influence and Portugal used to be a important mercantile country and now not so important in world scenario.

But i really think that Brazil dont be one of the missing civs.
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Really? You don't think it would be odd to represent modern, industrialised Brazil, with a Portuguese-speaking leader and Portuguese city names, without representing the country which, though arguably not responsible for their present economic success, had a defining role in shaping their national identity?

I'm not denying that Brazil are a bigger economic power in the modern world than Portugal, or that it shouldn't be in the game ever. But having Brazil without acknowledging their Portuguese origins would be like having the US without England or France, or indeed any Western European power without Rome. It just doesn't work.
 
AbsintheRed said:
- The language. Virtually nothing is known about it. I don't see it replaced with anything else either. What would they use for them??
Seriously, I will mod them out if they use a modern and not-too-wellknown european language from the hunnic-controlled territories
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Why not latin? The main diplomatic relations (...if you can call it in this way...) were with the both roman empires, so I guess they used latin in diplomacy. Doesn't sound too unreasonable imho.
 
The_J said:
Why not latin? The main diplomatic relations (...if you can call it in this way...) were with the both roman empires, so I guess they used latin in diplomacy. Doesn't sound too unreasonable imho.
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Not sure if the Huns really went in for diplomacy...

Latin is feasible, as is Gothic, but neither could be considered indigenous languages. My guess is they'll use Bulgar, Old Church Slavonic or possibly (though I hope I'm wrong) Hungarian.
 
blackcatatonic said:
Really? You don't think it would be odd to represent modern, industrialised Brazil, with a Portuguese-speaking leader and Portuguese city names, without representing the country which, though arguably not responsible for their present economic success, had a defining role in shaping their national identity?

I'm not denying that Brazil are a bigger economic power in the modern world than Portugal, or that it shouldn't be in the game ever. But having Brazil without acknowledging their Portuguese origins would be like having the US without England or France, or indeed any Western European power without Rome. It just doesn't work.
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Yes Brazil speak portuguese, have portuguese city names etc. But Brazil had immigrations for all over the Europe, Asia and Africa. Im not saying that Portugal had no role, yes they are the metropolis of colonial Brazil but now its important to see Brazil as the g8 member, international influence etc.
Portugal IMO its off cause 2k put Spain in the role of most important Country in mercantile period. IMO they need to put Portugal too, but the idea that they need to put it first of Brazil i dont agree.
 
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