Hatshepsut found or not?

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I recently read that the grave of Hatshepsut was indeed found, but Discovery would have the full scoop and telling of the validity of the find.

I have, however, not been able to pick up a single headline or Discovery link about this otherwise paramount find, so I wonder whether old Hat turned out to be an average geezer?

... and it would be nice to catch the Discovery airing if it should show.
 
I tried searching. There was a Discovery link about it was broken.

Anyway for those who've not heard the news, here's the article from ABC

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=3313952

Egyptologists Think They Have Hatshepsut's Mummy
By Jonathan Wright
June 25, 2007—


Egyptologists think they have identified with certainty the mummy of Hatshepsut, the most famous queen to rule ancient Egypt, found in a humble tomb in the Valley of the Kings, an archaeologist said on Monday.

Egypt's chief archaeologist, Zahi Hawass, will hold a news conference in Cairo on Wednesday. The Discovery Channel said he would announce what it called the most important find in the Valley of the Kings since the discovery of King Tutankhamun.

The archaeologist, who asked not to be named, said the candidate for identification as the mummy of Hatshepsut was one of two females found in 1903 in a small tomb believed to be that of Hatshepsut's wet-nurse, Sitre In.

Several Egyptologists have speculated over the years that one of the mummies was that of the queen, who ruled from between 1503 and 1482 BC -- at the height of ancient Egypt's power.

The archaeologist said Hawass would present new evidence for an identification but that not all Egyptologists are convinced he will be able to prove his case.

"It's based on teeth and body parts ... It's an interesting piece of scientific deduction which might point to the truth," the archaeologist said.

Egyptologist Elizabeth Thomas speculated many years ago that one of the mummies was Hatshepsut's because the positioning of the right arm over the woman's chest suggested royalty.

Her mummy may have been hidden in the tomb for safekeeping after her death because her stepson and successor, Tuthmosis III, tried to obliterate her memory.

Donald Ryan, an Egyptologist who rediscovered the tomb in 1989, said on an Internet discussion board this month that there were many possibilities for the identities of the two female mummies found in the tomb, known as KV 60.

"Zahi Hawass recently has taken some major steps to address these questions. Both of the KV 60 mummies are in Cairo now and are being examined in various clever ways that very well might shed light on these questions," he added.

In an undated article on his Web site, Hawass cast doubt on the theory that the KV-60 mummy with the folded right arm was that of Hatshepsut.

"I do not believe this mummy is Hatshepsut. She has a very large, fat body with huge pendulous breasts, and the position of her arm is not convincing evidence of royalty," he wrote.

He was more optimistic about the mummy found in the wet-nurse's coffin and traditionally identified as the nurse's. That mummy is stored away in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

"The body of the mummy now in KV 60 with its huge breasts may be the wetnurse, the original occupant of the coffin ... The mummy on the third floor at the Egyptian Museum in Cairo could be the mummy of Hatshepsut," Hawass wrote.

Copyright © 2007 ABC News Internet Ventures
 
So, was Hat the Pharaoh who was known for her beauty? (besides Cleopetra) if yes, can they computerize her face to us if its possible? that would be cool. Although reading the article, I'm somewhat skeptical about the news.
 
So, was Hat the Pharaoh who was known for her beauty? (besides Cleopetra) if yes, can they computerize her face to us if its possible? that would be cool. Although reading the article, I'm somewhat skeptical about the news.
... how can you not know Hat on a Civilization board?! :lol:

Gooo Civopedia! :)
 
DNA testing on this just came out today, apparently it matches DNA taken from Hatty's Grandmother. They also compared a tooth they had of Hatty and it matches the mummy. So it appears to be legit.
 
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Seeing that I haven't P.O.'ed any of the powers that be at CFC I find it a wee bit odd.

Is it just a regular thread?
 
I'm getting the same message (except for the name, of course) so you're being singled out.
 
I think that whatever body they found should be destroyed. Or else she might become like Tutankhumun, who is more famous as a corpse than a person.
 
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Seeing that I haven't P.O.'ed any of the powers that be at CFC I find it a wee bit odd.

Is it just a regular thread?
It was, when I locked the thread in OT yesterday.

Probably another mod has binned it or something...
 
I thik that whatever body they found should be destroyed. Or else she might become like Tutankhumun, who is more famous as a corpse than a person.

I think she should be taken for scientific study, then re-buried with full honours at the tomb she was found.
 
I think she should be taken for scientific study, then re-buried with full honours at the tomb she was found.

That makes much more sense than my idea. Especially since that would mean that Hatshepsut's eternal life would end if her body was destroyed, according to her religion. Or something like that.
 
Grave-robbing for archaeological purposes is no better than grave-robbing for lucre. The dead should be left to rest in peace.
 
The Egyptians didn't want to rest in peace. They wanted to be remembered, their names to be repeated for eternity. If your name, your "ren", is still remembered, to an ancient Egyptians it supposedly assured continued life after death. If it's forgotten, no continued afterlife.

So, as far as the ancient Egyptians are concerned, lying in state in a museum somewhere is very likely not a bad solution. If we want to do the right think we should have visitors say their names out loud, and perhaps repeat the "Hetep di nsw"-formula. (I tend to mumble it under my breath in mummy galleries, not that I think it works, but because they did.)
 
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