Hatty - Monarch Cookbook Mark II (IC concurrent)
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@ Aldor you are voting yet I don't think lymond has closed the round. The BPT in your comparison means little as Stephen BPT on my edited version of his save had a lot more BPT. So this comparison shows his save in a bad light. There also no indication of how many cities were running wealth.
i_imperator
Imperator
Thanks for standing up for my save gumbolt!!
By the time I am done the other saves will all be shadows.
If you remember, the previous game with the Chinese had early commerce as the target with a "useless" lake tile that was about all you'd get for research before Writing
Of course, once a game reaches a stable empire (one that can defend itself and can have 6 cities), I can't control how the players choose to play on, which usually means war as Civ is biased towards warlike approaches.
Oops sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone. Take my overview as a "what I'm thinking so far, subject to change" please. You're right, I didn't take running wealth into account (to get those numbers, I only adjusted the tech slider until I had a positive cash flow, without changing city settings anywhere). For a really fair comparison it must be considered.
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Note to all that Round 2 is still open, so more submissions are welcome. However, since it appears that submissions are slow to come at this point, I will look to end the round earlier - say mid-day tomorrow (EST). Round was probably long enough anyway.
Oh...and Gumbolt has been banned from the MC thread
Oh...and Gumbolt has been banned from the MC thread
Note to all that Round 2 is still open, so more submissions are welcome. However, since it appears that submissions are slow to come at this point, I will look to end the round earlier - say mid-day tomorrow (EST). Round was probably long enough anyway.
Oh...and Gumbolt has been banned from the MC thread
Grrrrrrr.
i_imperator
Imperator
Your fine,im not offended at all, i know my save is terrible!!
At least, what gumbolt said, it has potential to be a good game.
Some feedback. Not really a comprehensive tally. I've got my choices but will vote when round is closed. 
@Vranasm
@Cripp
@Invalice
@Siran
@Cenan
@Stevoh
@Trynthlas
@Aldor
@Vranasm
Spoiler :
@Cripp
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@Invalice
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@Siran
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@Cenan
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@Stevoh
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@Trynthlas
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@Aldor
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Round 2 Voting Begins
The voting for Round 2 is now open Looks like just about everyone from Round 1 submitted plus a couple of new players. The voting will last for 2 days and will close at approximately Midnight EST on Tuesday. Please post a request for additional time needed to vote, but I would like to close by early Wednesday at the latest to get the next round going. (The voting round could end sooner if everyone gets their votes in earlier)
Standard cookbook doctrine: Its not always about voting for the best save but the save that will be most interesting or challenging to play. Anyone that submitted a save is free to vote.
Please rank your top 3 in order.
First place 3 points.
Second place 2 points
Third place. 1 point.
PLEASE NOTE!! To keep voting fair you cant vote for your own save. You are expected to vote for 3 saves and give reasons for your voting. Remember this is a learning game. I would encourage everyone to act within the spirit that the cookbook is intended.
Siran
Vranasm
Cripp7
Invalice
Trynthlas
Cenan
Stevoh
Aldor
Fezzik
Walkabout
Please let me know if I missed anyone's save and I will add it to the list promptly.
Besides the reasons I posted above:
1st place: Vranasm
Excellent BPT. High pop. GP farm in Thebes is already on its way with 2 GS and academy. Cottages grown, spices, dyes connected.
2nd place: Cripp
Decent BPT. Average pop. Holy shrine. Courthouses everywhere.
3rd place wildcard: Invalice
BPT is ok. I don't like the HRE encroachment or the low number of cities. But the tech so far is good, calendar resources hooked up.
Overall, I'd say good job to everyone on this round.
1st place: VranasmExcellent BPT. High pop. GP farm in Thebes is already on its way with 2 GS and academy. Cottages grown, spices, dyes connected.
2nd place: CrippDecent BPT. Average pop. Holy shrine. Courthouses everywhere.
3rd place wildcard: InvaliceBPT is ok. I don't like the HRE encroachment or the low number of cities. But the tech so far is good, calendar resources hooked up.
Overall, I'd say good job to everyone on this round.
Came up a bit short I think. Not quite sure what part set you back the most though.
9 is not enough workers. Too much unimproved land. Thebes should be fully cottaged by now. Cities too small. Running too many merchants and not building Wealth anywhere. Running artists on the borders is questionable too -- you're not gaining much from it. I see an academy but I don't know if you got any more GP. Not seeing them anywhere. EDIT: oh you bulbed Philosophy I see. Well that's good then.
Others managed to build multiple wonders and holy city shrines. Too much production spent on temples and such I think.
Skipping Calendar might not be wise. Hereditary Rule garrisons are better than temples. Could have actually backfilled Meditation later I think. You didn't mention when you got Monarchy, but HR is key. That and Calendar. You made the same mistake that I did getting CoL before Currency. I misplanned the trades, though, to end up in that position due to AI teching Alphabet late and was unable to get Currency off The Oracle.
Something held you back. The wars, the worker shortage, or the tech path. 65 BPT at 20% is well behind most others. Not sure how you got into war with Cathy. Most people have scouted her land by now though and found Asoka.
My 2
vranasm
Deity
@fezzik
you know there is that copper and pigs otherwise wasted... hope it will make at least decent city in a loooooong run
you know there is that copper and pigs otherwise wasted... hope it will make at least decent city in a loooooong run
vranasm
Deity
I reviewed all saves and made some notes to be as objective as I can. Actually I picked only 3 saves for making order between them and not more, that's great.
order: (after really long thought that lasted at least 2-3 days I assure you)
Cripp7 - well i wrote everything earlier, so just... you deserve first place!
Cenan - ah those mids...my first instinct was completely wrong and the mids save could have been much much better! you wasted there reall big potential man...
Fezzik - I think i didnt comment on the save earlier... just small remark about techs. Not prioriting Calendar costed you 1 place in my votes! Silver and a bit unimproved land costed you another. I was impressed with city size you got, but imagine you had 5 different sources of happy from calendar connected and the HR garrison... I think wasted potential too.
order: (after really long thought that lasted at least 2-3 days I assure you)
Cripp7 - well i wrote everything earlier, so just... you deserve first place! Cenan - ah those mids...my first instinct was completely wrong and the mids save could have been much much better! you wasted there reall big potential man... Fezzik - I think i didnt comment on the save earlier... just small remark about techs. Not prioriting Calendar costed you 1 place in my votes! Silver and a bit unimproved land costed you another. I was impressed with city size you got, but imagine you had 5 different sources of happy from calendar connected and the HR garrison... I think wasted potential too.
You're right. Well, there's still time...potentially
I'll be away from the game for the next 2 weeks or so as I am home for vacation before the next university semester. I'm away from the game so I will abstain from voting for this round. My game may or not make it in on time for next round but rest assured I'm following everyone's progress .
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