Help with Peter

[CivMcNut]

Hi, I've been lurking around this forum for a few weeks taking notes about the game from you all and making some adjustments to my playstyle and went from Noble to doing pretty good on Prince.

Last night I started on a standard sized Terra Map playing Peter and just never quite got things going real good. I thought maybe it was the Terra Map being the culprit since everyone is bunched up on that "Old World", but when I played another Terra Map as Tokugawa I had no bronze or iron early on (therefore no benefit of the free combat I) and using horse archers and chariots managed to take out Mansa Musa very early despite his having axeman and his UU.

Both capital cities had lots of floodplains that I cottaged both times, but I wonder is it just plain tougher to start out fast on a big military campaign with a philosophical/expansive leader with a UU that doesn't come till the industrial age. Is the best bet with him run lots of specialists generate a lot of great people and wage war once you've got some sort of advantage from the great people? I have a lot of trouble with hapiness on those maps usually before Monarchy and Calendar if I don't conquer someone.

I guess what I need to do is learn how to run a SE with this guy.

 

[Zanttu]

I guess what I need to do is learn how to run a SE with this guy.

Seems like you answered your question yourself

Also check out Sisiutils Peter ALC! I'll try to search a link there soon.

EDIT: here's the link: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=234553

 

[paulthebug]

Yes, Peter is my favorite SE leader other than Freddy. His cities can support a lot of specialists later on.

The problem with Peter is slow early expansion. To match or surpass AIs early expansion, I think one must use slavery extensively. Grab strategic choke points, block AI expansion, backfill later. (Thank you, Unconquered Sun). Don't be afraid of anger citizens, blah! they can eat cake!

Steal or build pyramid, revolt to rep. Fill up your land. Build farm everyway using cheap workers. Slave rush infra, use specialists to control happiness issue. If you can get like a 10-city empire set up early, u would have won. It is just a matter of knight/curai/cossaks+spy rush to own ur continent later on(on noble). After that, either cross ocean for domination or tech like nobody can to launch. In one of my game, I have Peter producing like ~4,000-5,000 beakers per turn at the end at 0% sliders, thanks to his UB.

 

[PimpyMicPimp]

You don't absolutly need rep for a SE, since you're philo. They are definitly nice, but not necessary. Caste System is much more important than the 'mids.