historical badasses

[Zuffox]

Simo Hayha sounds like an awesome guy. Particularly because of my fascination with snipers as a military archetype.

 

[Zack]

Let's not forget Dennis Rodman, folks.

 

[vogtmurr]

I couldn't find a link on Fritz Klingenburg, but I found this guy who killed a bear with a stick in BC. Some animal rights loonies were all over his ass, because he happened to be a hunter. 9 times out of 10 this sort of encounter ends the other way around, even when the hunter is armed.
Jim West It is too bad about the cubs though - I can't believe such controversial BS as killing the cubs because they're "genetically agressive". 9 times out of 10 they won't survive anyway why not let nature handle it -geez-.

On another note: I sent some info to our friend on the Badass of the Week site, and he was pretty cool:

Hey vogtmurr,

Thanks so much for passing these threads along. Taking a quick look through the links it looks like tere's a ton of really great stuff here, and quite a few folks I'm not familiar with. I'm definitely going to be blocking out some time this afternoon to go through your lists, and will be sure to pull out guys that need to be added to the list of future BotW articles. I definitely agree that we have similiar tastes in military badasses. I'm actually working on a BotW book right now, and am featuring quite a few of my/our favorite all-time commanders -- Napoleon, Nelson, Khalid, Caesar, and a several others off this list (unfortunately I had to cut a couple of big names like Scipio, Belisarius, and Yi because of space reasons, but hey, maybe material for a future book if this one does well!). It's always good to meet another person who knows a good badass when he sees one. Anyways, I'll definitely be checking this out and updating my database of badasses. Thanks again for sending it along. -Ben

--- On Tue, 4/28/09, vogtmurr wrote:


Hi guy

you have a great site and a group of loyal fans at the Civilization Fanatics History forum. I started doing up some biographies of the greatest ever generals and see you've already covered most of them in more flowery language than we are allowed in this ....... forum. There are definitely some badass dudes in these lists you may want to consider, like Heraclius, Nelson, Conde and Manstein to name a few. And where is Robert E. Lee ?

But this list is far from complete - take a look at Richard the Lionhearted's story for instance. Anyway we got some similar interests, so I appreciate your fine writing style - makes good educational entertainment that will hold the attention-span of dysfunctional fetal-alcohol syndrome, ADHD suffering gang-related grade 10 dropouts in my hometown !

Thanks,vogtmurr

 

[nonconformist]

he Moderator Action: <snip!> on wiki dont like long, accurate articles, so deleted most of the info, but here is the old wiki on Klingenberg

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fritz_Klingenberg&oldid=105889395

 

[Plotinus]

Since this thread is just a re-run of this one I assume I'm allowed to repeat the same nomination I made there.

Aeneas Sage. Crazy name, scary man. He was pastor of Lochcarron in Scotland in the mid-eighteenth century and used decidedly muscular methods to instil the fear of God into his parishioners.

He was a true soldier in every sense of the word&#8230; There was a wicked fellow in Tosgag, who kept a mistress in the same house with his lawful married wife. When Mr Sage went to see him, Malcolm Roy drew his dirk; Mr Sage drew his sword; and the consequence was, that Malcolm Roy turned his mistress off&#8230; [Sage] struck terror into vice; and by enforcing the discipline of the church, and composing differences among the people, he reduced them to a state of civilization&#8230; He laboured for 47 years among them, and his labours were eminently countenanced by his Lord and Master. Sinners were brought under a concern for their salvation and their language was that of the jailor, &#8220;What shall we do to be saved?&#8221;&#8230; He preached the doctrines of the new birth, the corruption of human nature, and the necessity of the influences of the Divine Spirit, to break the power of sin in the soul.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

On another note: I sent some info to our friend on the Badass of the Week site, and he was pretty cool:

That's awesome. I am glad to have helped bring his site to the attention of a larger audience.

 

[Sharwood]

That's awesome. I am glad to have helped bring his site to the attention of a larger audience.

You should ask him for royalties.

Can I choose Australia as history's greatest badarse? He made a good argument.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

You should ask him for royalties.

Or to do an article on Orrin Porter Rockwell.

 

[vogtmurr]

Since this thread is just a re-run of this one I assume I'm allowed to repeat the same nomination I made there.

Aeneas Sage. Crazy name, scary man. He was pastor of Lochcarron in Scotland in the mid-eighteenth century and used decidedly muscular methods to instil the fear of God into his parishioners.

well there's some good stories on the other link too. You're right the Internet does have a short memory, to noobies like me. But this little piece of amazing trivia, is simply amazing: drinkers, duellists, hellraisers, womanizers Aeneas Sage had his work cut out for him.
I wonder if Kafka2 would mind if we sent this little gem over to our friend at BotW.

 

[LightSpectra]

There is a semi-mythological conqueror of early Babylon. Back when the city's population was in the 5,000 range, he somehow managed to trick the inhabitants of the city into thinking there was an army by the horizon, and got them to surrender.

By himself.

 

[vogtmurr]

Or to do an article on Orrin Porter Rockwell.

indeed nice likeness.
Even in that grainy photo he looks pretty intense. I could see him preach a little scripture as he wipes the bar room floor with some ne'erdowell. It seems appropriate that Richard Francis Burton shared a bottle with Rockwell during his many adventures. Burton was a bit of a heavy in his own right and well travelled before he made this acquaintance.

There is a semi-mythological conqueror of early Babylon. Back when the city's population was in the 5,000 range, he somehow managed to trick the inhabitants of the city into thinking there was an army by the horizon, and got them to surrender.

By himself.

Name ? - there is a loot of history in those Kinglists, but Babylon must have been very early, just an outpost of Sumeria, when there were only 5,000. Is this pre-Sargon ?

 

[GoodGame]

There is a semi-mythological conqueror of early Babylon. Back when the city's population was in the 5,000 range, he somehow managed to trick the inhabitants of the city into thinking there was an army by the horizon, and got them to surrender.

By himself.

Sounds like this myth/king: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En-me-barage-si

Though it is of a man who conquered a king single-handed.

 

[carmen510]

Did you say Badasses?

Warning: Some profanity

 

[Mirc]

Did

All of the 5 most badass presidents of all time are American?

 

[carmen510]

All of the 5 most badass presidents of all time are American?

The definition of American is badass, so yes, our leaders are badass.

Unless you Europeans can find a worthy "President" that can match Teddy Roosevelt.

...

See? I think not.

 

[Sharwood]

The definition of American is badass, so yes, our leaders are badass.

Unless you Europeans can find a worthy "President" that can match Teddy Roosevelt.

...

See? I think not.

One of Hitler's positions was "President." Choke on it. What could be more badarse than killing millions of innocent people?

Germany. **** yeah!

 

[carmen510]

One of Hitler's positions was "President." Choke on it. What could be more badarse than killing millions of innocent people?

Germany. **** yeah!

Hitler's only claim to being a badass is his mustache, and that one's far surpassed by Stalin's.

Badassery is not determined by how many you kill, it is the way you kill.

 

[Sharwood]

Hitler's only claim to being a badass is his mustache, and that one's far surpassed by Stalin's.

Badassery is not determined by how many you kill, it is the way you kill.

Dude, he made Jews wear yellow stars on their clothing and ruled - directly and through satellites and puppets - half of Europe. Clearly a badarse. Stalin does beat him, but that's because Stalin is awesome.

Let's not forget the badarsitude of Charles De Gaulle. I think Napoleon may even have had the title of President for a while, though his exact title escapes me for the moment, so I can't be sure. Josep Groz Tito had an entire island set aside for the torture of political prisoners which did not appear on maps. There are also Presidents outside of Europe. A certain commie nation had a rather badarse President that beat Hitler's score. The US doesn't have a monopoly on badarse Presidents.

 

[GoodGame]

I think Napoleon may even have had the title of President for a while, though his exact title escapes me for the moment, so I can't be sure. Josep Groz Tito had an entire island set aside for the torture of political prisoners which did not appear on maps. There are also Presidents outside of Europe. A certain commie nation had a rather badarse President that beat Hitler's score. The US doesn't have a monopoly on badarse Presidents.

At first, in power, Napoleon was a primary consulate sharing power, with other consulates, but then through popularity the whole thing became an empire with him as Emperor.

 

[Sharwood]

At first, in power, Napoleon was a primary consulate sharing power, with other consulates, but then through popularity the whole thing became an empire with him as Emperor.

I'm clearly thinking of Le Petit then.