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If you want to poke fun at funny Balkan nationalists minus the recent mass murders and ethnic cleansing, there is always the Bulgarians!

Unlike their former Yugoslavian counterparts, whom arguably need their nationalism to justify their existence, the Bulgarian Nationalists truly are living in their own delusional world!

I mean seriously, ever tried playing the Steppe Wolf mod for Europa Universalis 3? There are some 8+ different Bulgaria's to play and Bulgaria at pretty much every century is a world superpower, even under Ottoman occupation. :D
 
Does Basil the Bulgar-Slayer show up in that mod, perchance? :)
 
There are some 8+ different Bulgaria's to play

I only know the Volga Bulgaria and the Bulgaria "Proper". What are the remaining 6+?

1. The Alamo rallied the Texans, who eventually won the war. Kosovo helped end the Serbian kingdom's independence.

The Serbians also eventually won the war against the Ottomans and regained independence... in the 1800s.

The Alamo rallied the Texans

Not the Alamo but just its legend / myth - which was quite different from what really happened there.

2. Are you implying that I don't think Texans are crazy nationalists?

So you don't support the idea that Mexicans = evil oppressors, Texans = freedom loving good guys?

Does Basil the Bulgar-Slayer show up in that mod, perchance?

I suppose that he shows up in one campaign, but this campaign perhaps starts before Basil became the Bulgar-Slayer.
 
The Serbians also eventually won the war against the Ottomans and regained independence... in the 1800s.
That's not really relevant. Serbia was destroyed as an independent power for over four centuries. Kosovo was a shattering defeat.
Not the Alamo but just its legend / myth - which was quite different from what really happened there.
What legend? The Texans were besieged in the Alamo, put up a stiff fight, and were massacred. Everyone agrees on this. The difference between Kosovo and the Alamo is that Kosovo was a defeat that helped lead to the end of Serbian independence while the Alamo was a defeat that helped to motivate and strengthen the Texan rebels.

So you don't support the idea that Mexicans = evil oppressors, Texans = freedom loving good guys?
What ever gave you that impression? Americans settled Texas but agreed to obey Mexican laws, then refused to obey those laws (in no small part due to their desire to keep slaves, which Mexican law prohibited), and then rebelled violently. Granted, Santa Anna was a violent dictator, and the Texans had no intention of becoming Catholic, but I certainly don't buy the Texan founding myth.
 
I only know the Volga Bulgaria and the Bulgaria "Proper". What are the remaining 6+?

Off the top of my head, Principalities of Vidin and Dobrogea (which fair enough, were separate entities following the succession crises which preceded Ottoman occupation) and the rest are just different governmental forms of Bulgaria.
 
Something Domen said in another thread peaked my interests.

What little known areas of Europe historically (and do not today) boasted exceptional wealth of natural resources? Domen spoke of Silesia which had significant amounts of gold mines though Silesia was always a rich region. A Serbian friend of mine not too long ago boasted at lengths on the "largest gold mines in Europe" (whether that was true or not) in Raska and Kosovo(which were long ago exhausted and no longer exist), which directly allowed the Serbian kingdoms to maintain a very large host of mercenary German and Italian knights.

I'm wondering what other little known areas were similarly significant in the past.

edit: Also no need to exclude the rest of the world. If anyone has an interesting mention or response, go for it.

Bohemia was well known for its silver mines. In fact, the city of Jachymov's German name is Joachimsthal, and was where the Joachimsthaler was minted. That's the source of the word "dollar."
 
The pitchblende that Marie Curie extracted radium from also came from Joachimsthal.
 
After Russian revolution why there has not been Provisional/Tsar Russian goverment in exile?
 
After Russian revolution why there has not been Provisional/Tsar Russian goverment in exile?

The Tsar and his entire family was executed and basically all of the former instruments and institutions of power that supported his old government were violently dismembered. It was for the best, really.
 
The Tsar and his entire family was executed and basically all of the former instruments and institutions of power that supported his old government were violently dismembered. It was for the best, really.

No.

Grand Duke Nikolai who refused to be new Tsar after Nikolai II gave up died in exile.

Kerensky also survived and lived nicely in New York.
 
After Russian revolution why there has not been Provisional/Tsar Russian goverment in exile?

Well not a Tsar government, but several important nobles did flee in exile and did have plans on resurrecting a government in exile. (Or atleast some sort of preliminary plan to coup the government and restore a constitutional monarchy) I believe I read that on wikipedia once.

Though I have no idea what were there names or where to find the information/wiki-page again. Maybe someone here knows better.
 
What legend? The Texans were besieged in the Alamo, put up a stiff fight, and were massacred.

The part about putting up a stiff fight is the legendary part.

They were surprised at sleep, many of them panicked, some deserted already before the battle.

The final assault lasted for around 15 minutes - pretty much as shortly as the battle of Little Big Horn (another legendary massacre).

Americans - by the way - still celebrate the Little Big Horn - their failed attempt of expansionism into territory of native, legitimate inhabitants.

Since "The Gold of Black Hills" ("Złoto Gór Czarnych") trilogy was one of my favourite books in my childhood, I support Sitting Bull, not Custer.

Hoka hey!

[The difference between Kosovo and the Alamo is that Kosovo was a defeat that helped lead to the end of Serbian independence while the Alamo was a defeat that helped to motivate and strengthen the Texan rebels.

Kosovo also motivated and strengthened the Serbians - but unlike the Texans, the Serbians were facing a powerful, well-organized, well-trained enemy with high morale and excellent commanders, who outnumbered the Serbians many times in army size, population size and territory size.

It is thus no surprise that the Turks destroyed Serbia while the poor and demoralized Mexican army did not manage to do the same with Texans.

The real difference is between the Ottoman Empire and Mexico - not between Kosovo and Alamo.

Please note that the Ottoman Empire defeated also the Byzantine Empire and several other states in the same period - not only Serbia.

On the other hand, Mexico never managed to defeat anyone in their history (I don't count Spanish colonies fighting for independence as Mexico).

and the Texans had no intention of becoming Catholic

So there were no Catholics at all among the Texans?

Americans settled Texas but agreed to obey Mexican laws, then refused to obey those laws (in no small part due to their desire to keep slaves, which Mexican law prohibited), and then rebelled violently.

You see - this is very different from the Serbian-Ottoman conflict. Serbians lived in their own land - not in Ottoman territories.

Serbians were not Ottoman citizens who rebelled violently against the Ottoman Empire - it was the Ottoman Empire which invaded the Kingdom of Serbia. First Turkish possessions in Europe were gained by the Ottoman Empire as the result of actions of mercenary Turks in Byzantine service - who were called for help by Byzantine Emperors - occupying land that they had been ordered to recapture for Byzantine Emperor (so Turks disobeyed their Byzantine "employer" and conquered land for themselves, rather than regaining it for the Byzantine Emperor who hired them).

Later they started to expand into both Byzantine lands and lands of other states in the region.

The Turks were the invaders, the Serbians were the legitimate owners of their land.

Thus I support the Serbians in this case.
 
No.

Grand Duke Nikolai who refused to be new Tsar after Nikolai II gave up died in exile.

Kerensky also survived and lived nicely in New York.

Two dudes without a power structure and a homeland filled with people bent on whipping them from existence kind makes me think they were smart to sit that one out.
 
Americans - by the way - still celebrate the Little Big Horn - their failed attempt of expansionism into territory of native, legitimate inhabitants.

I don't know a single person who "celebrates" Little Big Horn. Most people who any opinion whatsoever think Custer was foolish not heroic and Sitting Bull is widely revered. So I'm really not sure what you're talking about.
 
I don't know a single person who "celebrates" Little Big Horn. Most people who any opinion whatsoever think Custer was foolish not heroic and Sitting Bull is widely revered. So I'm really not sure what you're talking about.

The Sioux probably celebrate it.
 
The Tsar and his entire family was executed and basically all of the former instruments and institutions of power that supported his old government were violently dismembered. It was for the best, really.
Not to mention that it would be totally without legal basis, because during the February Revolution the Tsarist regime voluntarily disbanded itself in favour of the republic, and no republican government-in-exile could not plausibly claim a mandate to reintroduce the monarchy.
 
I don't know a single person who "celebrates" Little Big Horn. Most people who any opinion whatsoever think Custer was foolish not heroic and Sitting Bull is widely revered. So I'm really not sure what you're talking about.

The number of Hollywood movies about this relatively insignificant battle speaks for itself (i.e. it shows that LBH is part of American martyrology).

And only some of them portray this battle from other than pro-Custer / pro-US biased and anti-Indian biased point of view.

When the "Little Big Man" movie was screened in the US, many people were outraged by the portrayal of their hero Custer and his heroic stand.
 
The number of Hollywood movies about this relatively insignificant battle speaks for itself (i.e. it shows that LBH is part of American martyrology).

And only some of them portray this battle from other than pro-Custer / pro-US biased and anti-Indian biased point of view.

When the "Little Big Man" movie was screened in the US, many people were outraged by the portrayal of their hero Custer and his heroic stand.
The only mainstream film in the last twenty years to mention this battle is The Last Samurai, and they mention it in a negative light. One might as well say that Hollywood is in favour of nuking Moscow because of some anti-Russian films during the Cold War.
 
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