Xtream_Rockstar
THE D IS BACK
ill go 4 a harder diffuculty so ill stay if thats okay
HN02-B The Jihadist Power of Religion
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Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Of course Xtream same list of people only harder game coming soon....
I also played the original to 1750 didn't do anywarmongering but yet in third place. Just getting the troops together to go after MM or ALex not sure yet whichever have yields in the best cities. Both are heathens so it doesn't matter.
Here's the game if you want to carry on with for the fun of it. Just take a look at Mecca. I am inclined to go after MM's holy city and raze. That would stifle his tech lead. He is ahead but probably we the 2nd most advanced.
I also played the original to 1750 didn't do anywarmongering but yet in third place. Just getting the troops together to go after MM or ALex not sure yet whichever have yields in the best cities. Both are heathens so it doesn't matter.
Here's the game if you want to carry on with for the fun of it. Just take a look at Mecca. I am inclined to go after MM's holy city and raze. That would stifle his tech lead. He is ahead but probably we the 2nd most advanced.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Now that we are at this stage do we carry on or let it go?? If the team feels going to Emperor is too much I completely understand. It is tough and can be tedious later in the game. It is doable but needs a lot of detail work and warmongering early. I say that because warmongering early is way more effective than later. In this game it would have been tough although finding Alex at the northern tip of our land, we could have gone after him with galleys. He had control of the only horses but we could have prevailed against him with cats/axes/swords/spears. I just played on to experiment a bit and the variants at some point wasn't observed.
I am interested in a Supercity game as I think that is the way to go. Have you ever been beaten by a AI (space AI) that only has like 6 cities. Meanwhile you have laboured to take a continent looking for domination. That AI beat you because he had mostly top notch cities and GP farm. I have overlooked GP farm a lot and even in the above game should have changed the tiles from cottages to farms to have even more scientist. I did use the caste system for that. Mecca is popping GP's like crazy and pushed me ahead quite a bit. At one point I had two GS's and (both only gave Sci Meth) and added to the city as I always stall for Sci Meth maximizing the Great Library. (one of the most important wonders imo)
Now I haven't had much feedback other than Xtream who is willing to try which I respect his courage. If Emperor isn't desirable for the rest we can go for Monarch but I think the challenge is over at this point. No big deal really first time I tried this but hey just have to try again. Perhaps some creative types might want to offer some ideas on how we could get back in the race. I thought about the Chaos thread where they do stuff like hijack saves and think that's interesting. I am going to wait for feedback from all players as to what they want to do. Xtream is confirmed yes for Emperor.
I am interested in a Supercity game as I think that is the way to go. Have you ever been beaten by a AI (space AI) that only has like 6 cities. Meanwhile you have laboured to take a continent looking for domination. That AI beat you because he had mostly top notch cities and GP farm. I have overlooked GP farm a lot and even in the above game should have changed the tiles from cottages to farms to have even more scientist. I did use the caste system for that. Mecca is popping GP's like crazy and pushed me ahead quite a bit. At one point I had two GS's and (both only gave Sci Meth) and added to the city as I always stall for Sci Meth maximizing the Great Library. (one of the most important wonders imo)
Now I haven't had much feedback other than Xtream who is willing to try which I respect his courage. If Emperor isn't desirable for the rest we can go for Monarch but I think the challenge is over at this point. No big deal really first time I tried this but hey just have to try again. Perhaps some creative types might want to offer some ideas on how we could get back in the race. I thought about the Chaos thread where they do stuff like hijack saves and think that's interesting. I am going to wait for feedback from all players as to what they want to do. Xtream is confirmed yes for Emperor.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
So that's three for trying Emperor so I will post a new game sometime this weekend.
Thanks Frankcor that makes me feel better.
Hope we get another primo site for Mecca like the last game.
Thanks Frankcor that makes me feel better.
Hope we get another primo site for Mecca like the last game.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Ok so we have a consensus and we go forth. You guys have spirit and I like that. "Remember the Alamo"....
Our challenge then moves on and we shall prevail against the Pacifist.
Also since we are playing on Emperor we do not have to found religion but can capture it. The religions as outlined in the variants. We are not limited to building any type wonders I feel that was unfair as I must have the beloved TGL. It is possible on Emperor especially if you have marble. What I usually do is get Polytheism/Writing/Alphabet/Literature. Remember to trade like you have never traded before to keep up tech wise. We will fall behind but with the right approach (TGL/many scientists) we can do well We can never accept Pacifism/Free Religion but can accept any other civic. Raging barbs is tough but it will also affect the other AI's. Just bear in mind to start with Hunting-->Archery-->mining-->Bronze working. Getting axes fast is great and if we can, try for stonehenge to get that GP for theology. Stonehenge can only take three chops. If we are lucky with copper get 4 or 5 axes we can steal worker from nearest civ and then attack capitol.
Let's use our traits too especially Philosophical. At first GP farm won't do any good but later on it will. It may mean parting with cottages. On emperor only can go to 4 because of happiness so happiness resources/monarchy are very important.
I will post sometime tomorrow with a new start.
Our challenge then moves on and we shall prevail against the Pacifist.
Also since we are playing on Emperor we do not have to found religion but can capture it. The religions as outlined in the variants. We are not limited to building any type wonders I feel that was unfair as I must have the beloved TGL. It is possible on Emperor especially if you have marble. What I usually do is get Polytheism/Writing/Alphabet/Literature. Remember to trade like you have never traded before to keep up tech wise. We will fall behind but with the right approach (TGL/many scientists) we can do well We can never accept Pacifism/Free Religion but can accept any other civic. Raging barbs is tough but it will also affect the other AI's. Just bear in mind to start with Hunting-->Archery-->mining-->Bronze working. Getting axes fast is great and if we can, try for stonehenge to get that GP for theology. Stonehenge can only take three chops. If we are lucky with copper get 4 or 5 axes we can steal worker from nearest civ and then attack capitol.
Let's use our traits too especially Philosophical. At first GP farm won't do any good but later on it will. It may mean parting with cottages. On emperor only can go to 4 because of happiness so happiness resources/monarchy are very important.
I will post sometime tomorrow with a new start.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Here's our new Start:
I say we settle on spot....
Roster
Xtream Rockstar -- UP
Frankcor -- on deck
Cosmichail
Codeman
Adamlan
It's a nice spot but we'll need calender pretty soon too to take advantage of the silk.
Remember tech path hunting-->archery-->mining and build at least two archers to accompany a settler.
Build path warrior-->warrior-->worker-->start settler, once archery finished hold settler and build at least two archers to accompany. Have at least two more archers defending Mecca and use extra warriors on hills fortified for fogbusting. Find a good production spot for second city so it can start stonehenge right away and garrison archers. Improve Mecca first (just enough tiles to function) and move worker to second city for mining for stonehenge. I would recommend after mining bronze working. Then we can start on the religious techs.
Have fun.....
I say we settle on spot....
Roster
Xtream Rockstar -- UP
Frankcor -- on deck
Cosmichail
Codeman
Adamlan
It's a nice spot but we'll need calender pretty soon too to take advantage of the silk.
Remember tech path hunting-->archery-->mining and build at least two archers to accompany a settler.
Build path warrior-->warrior-->worker-->start settler, once archery finished hold settler and build at least two archers to accompany. Have at least two more archers defending Mecca and use extra warriors on hills fortified for fogbusting. Find a good production spot for second city so it can start stonehenge right away and garrison archers. Improve Mecca first (just enough tiles to function) and move worker to second city for mining for stonehenge. I would recommend after mining bronze working. Then we can start on the religious techs.
Have fun.....
looks good to me. not a bad start.
with 3 silk in BFC and the river looks like we have the makings if a pretty good commerce city down the road. pigs and grassland for food, cottage everything except silk... probably good idea to start planning as early as possible what wonders we want to shoot for in each city. commerce wonders in commerce cities, military wonders in production citis (rapid exp'd soldiers), and so on... that means we should identify as early as possible what each city will specialize in. i think we need to vigilantly implore city specialization and micromanagement if we really want to win. who knoiws, we may blow this thing outa the water and have to step it up next game.
i think it'll probably be difficult to get the early wonders.
with 3 silk in BFC and the river looks like we have the makings if a pretty good commerce city down the road. pigs and grassland for food, cottage everything except silk... probably good idea to start planning as early as possible what wonders we want to shoot for in each city. commerce wonders in commerce cities, military wonders in production citis (rapid exp'd soldiers), and so on... that means we should identify as early as possible what each city will specialize in. i think we need to vigilantly implore city specialization and micromanagement if we really want to win. who knoiws, we may blow this thing outa the water and have to step it up next game.
i think it'll probably be difficult to get the early wonders.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Totally agree. Stonehenge is only three chops provides GP, and I think 16 culture. Of course we need BW for it and maybe if we are lucky get settler out sooner if we are not isolated.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Yep we'll need lots of team input on this. I always find once we get some techs out of the way we want Alphabet becomes important for tech trading. I just hope we have some neighbours this time. Remember the UU for Saladin does not need horses or iron. The Camel Archer really isn't that bad and easy to build.
hadn't tried saladin yet. that is planned to be my next work (beginns tonight). i will try to learn some of his strength and weaknesses. although, most of those will actually be us. both the strengths and weaknesses, or how we apply or don't apply them...
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Concur, my paths are suggestions but as we play it might not work and need to act as situations arise. If we aren't we will get boxed in quickly much faster than Prince so the sooner the better for settlers. Of course if we have a couple powerhouse production cities we can always help ourselves to our neighbours.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Xtream Rockstar -- UP
Frankcor -- on deck
Cosmichail
Codeman
Adamlan
Ok I was hoping Xtream would have posted a "got it" by now. If we don't get the "got it" from him by tonight I suggest Frankcor take it.
Frankcor -- on deck
Cosmichail
Codeman
Adamlan
Ok I was hoping Xtream would have posted a "got it" by now. If we don't get the "got it" from him by tonight I suggest Frankcor take it.
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Would you please take it Frankcor and post a "got it" or anyone else that wants to start. Adamlan I hope you will be playing since in Inquistors you posted "got it" twice and then disappeared. It slowed the game down by some 6 days. I am going to post to the succession game thread and look for some players since I am having doubts that two players will be reliable unless they reassure me of that. I know it's just a game but others want to "get into it" and lose the momentum when the game stalls. At least it has that effect on me. Frankcor was very ill but yet found the time to post OOP for this which I really appreciate when people are considerate of others.
(PS: I would start but am not at home and have no civ 4 until tomorrow night)
(PS: I would start but am not at home and have no civ 4 until tomorrow night)
Xtream_Rockstar
THE D IS BACK
oops im sry i dint see the roster if its not to late to post a got it i can understand
Cosmichail
Dark Lord of The Sith
Please do Xtream that's why I reposted and thought that might be the case.
Xtream_Rockstar
THE D IS BACK
okay this is the got it i wont be able to play tonight but i will be able to post it in the morrning i gotts a AOEIII game with my dad and bro and i promised to play with them... but im sure u can see the report when u guys are at work
