HOF Questions and Answers Thread

[Denniz]

@lymond, if you are having interface problems, you may be getting python errors. Try turning on logging in the CivilizationIV.ini file. There is one for each expansion in it's folder under My Games.

; Enable the logging system
LoggingEnabled = 1

; Overwrite old network and message logs
OverwriteLogs = 1

You can post the Python*.log files here. They are found in a Logs folder in the same folder as the ini file.

 

[lymond]

@Ozbenno and Denniz

Thanks for your responses. I also posted in the newest vanilla GOTM thread to see if anyone else has this problem. It is actually a known issue. The problem is the Specialist Stacker. It was recommended that I uncheck the specialist stacker option on the HOF3 tab. The interface immediately returned to my capital city.

I can certainly live without the specialist stacker but I guess this issue should be reported to those that run the HOF mods. I don't know if these posts serve as such.
(Note: This only happens in vanilla CIV4)

edit: please let me know if you need additonal info you would like to diagnose this issue.

 

[Hsinchu]

963 posts... wow.

I couldn't find an answer elsewhere.

I am trying to load an old save from the HOF for study purposes. It uses a different game patch and a non-current HOF mod. It's giving me the same fail message that I got when I first loaded the current mod and tried to open a GOTM save. I got the GOTM save to work by replacing the dll and adjusting all the administrative necessities.

Do I need to revert or separately install a differently patched CivIV in order to open the file? Also, are Mac submissions distinguished from PC submissions in HOF and would that factor into opening the file?

 

[Methos]

Do I need to revert or separately install a differently patched CivIV in order to open the file?

Currently you would need to have dual, or multiple, installs of civ with the patch type and mod version of the game you are wanting to open. At this time we don't have it set up for older versions/patch games to be viewed with the current one.

Also, are Mac submissions distinguished from PC submissions in HOF and would that factor into opening the file?

At this time the HOF is not set up to accept Mac submissions. Our apologies.

 

[Dasphios]

I don't believe this has been asked here; kindly accept my apologies and redirect me if it has. Looking at the HOF chart itself, the expansion filter options include any, vanilla, warlords, and BTS. Which category would a game with both expansions fall under?

 

[Ozbenno]

I don't believe this has been asked here; kindly accept my apologies and redirect me if it has. Looking at the HOF chart itself, the expansion filter options include any, vanilla, warlords, and BTS. Which category would a game with both expansions fall under?

Not sure I get the question sorry, you can't play a game with more than one expansion.

If you've installed Warlords and BtS but play a game in Warlords, it counts as Warlords only, if you have both installed and play a game in BtS it counts for BtS only.

 

[Dasphios]

Not sure I get the question sorry, you can't play a game with more than one expansion.

If you've installed Warlords and BtS but play a game in Warlords, it counts as Warlords only, if you have both installed and play a game in BtS it counts for BtS only.

Well, unless BTS installs everything Warlords had (which it might; I've never had just BTS installed), or you can't install BTS without Warlords (again, I suppose it might be possible), then playing BTS with both installed would be playing both, at least in terms of gameplay. I was just wondering how it was reflected in the HOF. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[Ozbenno]

BtS and Warlords are installed (and play) seperately, you don't need one to install (or play) the other.

 

[phanc]

I was playing tonight on my laptop, and by accident I had unplugged the power cable. So while I was playing, windows did an emergency shutdown because the battery was low. I plugged the cable back in, waited 5 minutes, and when I turned my PC on, I was able to restore the windows session, and my game was still running. Is this game still eligible for HOF submission? I did a save immediately after the reboot if that matters.

 

[Ozbenno]

If Civ was still running when the laptop was restored it is fine for submission.

 

[Hsinchu]

Lol. I think it would be harder to disqualify said game than it would be to qualify it. I also play Civ on a laptop, and laptops generally go black when they want to. Thus far, though, I don't think I've ever had to submit a multi-session game yet. (Yes, that includes the current major, XD) The only problem I've had with "straight run" games is that I can't alt+tab to the internet to troubleshoot really well in the middle of a game for fear of crashing.

Question: Do the judges see my black ice show up in my final HOF submissions or is that just a natural memory leak thing that doesn't get saved?

 

[pholtz]

Thus far, though, I don't think I've ever had to submit a multi-session game yet. (Yes, that includes the current major, XD) The only problem I've had with "straight run" games is that I can't alt+tab to the internet to troubleshoot really well in the middle of a game for fear of crashing.

Hsinchu,

In my opinion, you are creating more trouble than you are solving. Since Civ4 does have some minor leaks, the longer you play it the more likely it is to crash. I will purposely save the game and exit the program and restart it if I've played more than 2 hours. The 'just one more turn' syndrome has me playing longer at times without realizing it.

If I've been playing a while and am going to start a war, I'll also save and restart, since crashes in wars are more suspect. I've never had a game rejected for those saves and reloads.

 

[Ozbenno]

It is better to save and then reload (using the save on exit feature) when playing long sessions. As pholtz says, civ is more likely to crash the longer you play in one session.

 

[Bolka]

I looked into several pages of posts, and couldn't find the answer to this:

I am trying to have BUFFY loaded when launching BtS, instead of having to launch BtS, load the mod and then play, which is very annoying since BUFFY BtS crashes a lot.
The explanation on the HOF page suggests two ways and none work, the game just starts normal without loading BUFFY nor giving any error message.

If you want to have the mod start automatically when starting Civ4 you can make the following change in the CivilizationIV.ini file:
Before:

; Specify a Mod folder (Mods\Mesopotamia), '0' for none
Mod = 0

After

; Specify a Mod folder (Mods\Mesopotamia), '0' for none
Mod = Mods\BUFFY3.19.001

Also, rather than changing the ini file, you can make a copy of the Civ4 shortcut and add
mods= \BUFFY-3.19.001 at the end of the Target field.

"C:\Games\Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe" mods=\BUFFY-3.19.001

 

[Denniz]

I looked into several pages of posts, and couldn't find the answer to this:

I am trying to have BUFFY loaded when launching BtS, instead of having to launch BtS, load the mod and then play, which is very annoying since BUFFY BtS crashes a lot.
The explanation on the HOF page suggests two ways and none work, the game just starts normal without loading BUFFY nor giving any error message.

If you want to have the mod start automatically when starting Civ4 you can make the following change in the CivilizationIV.ini file:
Before:

; Specify a Mod folder (Mods\Mesopotamia), '0' for none
Mod = 0

After

; Specify a Mod folder (Mods\Mesopotamia), '0' for none
Mod = Mods\BUFFY3.19.001

Also, rather than changing the ini file, you can make a copy of the Civ4 shortcut and add
mods= \BUFFY-3.19.001 at the end of the Target field.

"C:\Games\Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe" mods=\BUFFY-3.19.001

This is my shortcut: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Civ4BeyondSword.exe" /mod= BUFFY-3.19.001

Notice the space between the = and the B. The path has to be the path on your machine, of course.

 

[Bolka]

It worked! Thanks a lot!

 

[kcd_swede]

Hi, stupid question coming up:

If I submit 2 games to the same minor gauntlet, does that fill two slots in the Gauntlet(minor) category of the EQM? Or do you have to have two submissions in two seperate gauntlets?

 

[Denniz]

Hi, stupid question coming up:

If I submit 2 games to the same minor gauntlet, does that fill two slots in the Gauntlet(minor) category of the EQM? Or do you have to have two submissions in two seperate gauntlets?

Since only one game counts in the gauntlet, I guess you would have to play two gauntlets.

 

[Bally]

I am having difficulty with the BUFFY mod in conjuntion with the map finder.

I am getting this message from the map finder program:

"One or more of the Map finder paths in BUFFY mod was invalid. The finder paths have been set to the application folder."

After that I can't run the map finder in the BTS game I start.

Alt M only gets me a reminder feature.

ANy clues?

 

[Denniz]

I am having difficulty with the BUFFY mod in conjuntion with the map finder.

I am getting this message from the map finder program:

"One or more of the Map finder paths in BUFFY mod was invalid. The finder paths have been set to the application folder."

After that I can't run the map finder in the BTS game I start.

Alt M only gets me a reminder feature.

ANy clues?

The Hot Key for MapFinder in BUFFY is Ctl-Alt-G. It is a toggle so you use it to turn MapFinder off/on. There is a delay in responding when you toggle it off. (i.e. the keystrokes are queued up until it comes back). If you are not sure if it took make sure you keying it an odd number of times.