Holder to Appoint Prosecutor to Investigate CIA Terror Interrogations

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From the Washington Post:

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has decided to appoint a prosecutor to examine nearly a dozen cases in which CIA interrogators and contractors may have violated anti-torture laws and other statutes when they allegedly threatened terrorism suspects, according to two sources familiar with the move.

Holder is poised to name John Durham, a career Justice Department prosecutor from Connecticut, to lead the inquiry, according to the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the process is not complete.

Durham's mandate, the sources added, will be relatively narrow: to look at whether there is enough evidence to launch a full-scale criminal investigation of current and former CIA personnel who may have broken the law in their dealings with detainees. Many of the harshest CIA interrogation techniques have not been employed against terrorism suspects for four years or more.

The attorney general selected Durham in part because the longtime prosecutor is familiar with the CIA and its past interrogation regime. For nearly two years, Durham has been probing whether laws against obstruction or false statements were violated in connection with the 2005 destruction of CIA videotapes. The tapes allegedly depicted brutal scenes including waterboarding of some of the agency's high value detainees. That inquiry is proceeding before a grand jury in Alexandria, although lawyers following the investigation have cast doubt on whether it will result in any criminal charges.

Word of Holder's decision comes on the same day that the Obama administration will issue a 2004 report by the then-CIA Inspector General. Among other things, the IG questioned the effectiveness of harsh interrogation tactics that included simulated drowning and wall slamming. A federal judge in New York forced the administration to release the secret report after a lawsuit from the American Civil Liberties Union.

A separate internal Justice Department ethics report on the professionalism of lawyers who blessed the questioning techniques continues to undergo declassification review and is not likely to be released imminently. The New York Times reported Monday that the ethics report recommended that Holder take another look at several episodes of alleged detainee abuse that previously had been declined for prosecution during the Bush years, bolstering his decision to appoint a prosecutor.

Leaders at the Justice Department and the intelligence community have clashed this year over the release of sensitive interrogation memos, military photographs of detainee abuse and how to handle the cases of more than 200 detainees at the prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Holder's decision could complicate the Justice Department's relationship with the White House, where President Obama has repeatedly expressed a desire to move forward from the national security controversies of the Bush administration. Deputy White House press secretary Bill Burton told reporters Monday that the president had complete faith in Holder and that the decision whether to launch an investigation was the attorney general's sole prerogative.

"The White House supports the attorney general making the decisions on who gets prosecuted and investigated," Burton said.

Holder acknowledges the possible fallout from his decision, but has concluded in recent days that he has no other choice than to probe whether laws were broken in connection with the Bush administration's interrogation program, the two sources said. Fewer than a dozen cases will be examined, most from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Any criminal investigation into the CIA conduct faces serious hurdles, according to current and former government lawyers, including such challenges as missing evidence, nonexistent or unreliable witnesses, no access to some bodies of detainees who died, and the passage of up to seven years since the questionable activity occurred far from American soil.

During the Bush years, a team of more than a half-dozen career prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia, which is renown for its expertise in probing clandestine operations, reviewed about 20 cases of alleged prisoner abuse after receiving referrals from the military and then-CIA Inspector General John Helgerson. Among the assistant U.S. attorneys involved in the review was Robert Spencer, who successfully prosecuted al-Qaeda operative Zacharias Moussaoui and who later won one of the highest awards the Justice Department bestows.

In only one of the cases did the lawyers recommend seeking a grand jury indictment. A federal appeals court earlier this month affirmed the assault conviction of David A. Passaro, a CIA contractor who wielded a metal flashlight against a detainee at a military base in Afghanistan. Passaro was not charged with murder. Abdul Wali, the detainee he questioned, died shortly after the beating but investigators could not conclusively link his death to the flashlight attack.

A former government official involved in the previous review said that, given problems with evidence, there was "no conceivable way we could have come out different" and sought criminal indictments. The official said that analysis might change if new and reliable witnesses emerged.

Current and former CIA officials from both Democratic and Republican administrations have cited the prior review by prosecutors as one of several reasons why the Obama Justice Department need not act. They fear that any criminal investigation will chill intelligence activities and alienate operatives who are responsible for protecting national security.

In a message distributed to employees Monday morning, CIA Director Leon Panetta noted that the agency repeatedly had sought legal advice from the Justice Department, receiving "multiple written assurances that its methods were lawful. The CIA has a strong record in terms of following legal guidance and informing the Department of Justice of potentially illegal conduct."

The Justice Department investigation has roiled activists from across the political spectrum for weeks even before it became a reality Monday. The left-leaning ACLU and Alliance for Justice, as well as groups that represent torture victims, exhorted Holder to undertake a wide-ranging probe of Bush lawyers and administration officials who helped develop the interrogation policy.

But nine GOP senators who occupy prominent roles on the Judiciary Committee last week urged Holder not to act at all, arguing that further investigation was both unnecessary and unwise.

"The intelligence community will be left to wonder whether actions taken today in the interest of national security will be subject to legal recriminations when the political winds shift," said the letter, signed by lawmakers including Sens. Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Jeff Sessions (Ala.), John Cornyn (Tex.), Orrin Hatch (Utah) and Charles Grassley (Iowa).

With Monday's looming public announcement, however, the attorney general and his national security team appear to be staking out a middle ground -- rejecting a broad inquiry that could result in possible prosecutions of Justice Department lawyers in the Bush years as well as cabinet officers who developed counterterrorism policy; but giving civil liberties advocates at least part of what they wanted without supporting a full, independent truth commission to examine a host of Bush national security practices.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/24/AR2009082401743.html?hpid=topnews

what are the chances of any actual prosecutions coming from this?
 
Durham's mandate, the sources added, will be relatively narrow: to look at whether there is enough evidence to launch a full-scale criminal investigation of current and former CIA personnel who may have broken the law in their dealings with detainees. Many of the harshest CIA interrogation techniques have not been employed against terrorism suspects for four years or more.
From the last time I heard about this, I specifically believe this is in regards to the legality within the torture memos. That is, if they have gone over the specific lines as specified within said memos. So not all torture done would be prosecuted.
 
A lot better than if they did nothing? I can only hope...

And I can't believe the Washington Post called the ACLU "left-leaning"...
 
And I can't believe the Washington Post called the ACLU "left-leaning"...

Civil liberties with regards to suspected criminals and non-citizens is considered left-leaning within the United States, for better or worse.
 
My thoughts: Find out what the <bleep!> happened. If you're going to blame 'bad apples', prosecute their commanders for practically hibernating on duty. The amount of <censored!> involved appears to be far greater than the amount of retribution exerted to date.
 
The details are the key. If it's what Bill3000 said, it's worse than doing nothing, because it could act as a ratification of the torture memos, at least within the executive branch. It just sounds like it's an investigation to see if there's evidence to prosecute those couple CIA guys . . .

But prosecutions are based on crimes, not suspects. If Durham (or someone else, if they appoint someone else to handle the actual prosecutions) takes it seriously, it could be very difficult to contain the investigations just to those agents who went above and beyond the torture memos.

And I can't believe the Washington Post called the ACLU "left-leaning"...

Almost nobody has been pushing harder to ignore the rule of law than the Washington Post editorial board. I'm surprised they were so restrained as to use "left-leaning."

And what Bill said: "following the law," along with things like "not torturing" and "not starting wars," are partisan positions in 21st Century America.

Cleo
 
And what Bill said: "following the law," along with things like "not torturing" and "not starting wars," are partisan positions in 21st Century America.
And so is adhering to the Constitution...
 
From BBc.co.uk

CIA agents threatened to kill a terror suspect's children as part of interrogation techniques, a newly declassified report has revealed.

The report was made in 2004 but only a heavily censored version appeared and a judge ordered fuller disclosure.

The findings could lead to prosecutions of CIA employees, analysts say. The CIA director said he would "stand up" for those who followed legal guidance.

Earlier, President Obama approved a new elite team to question terror suspects.

Also on Monday US media said the justice department was to reopen about a dozen prisoner abuse cases.

'Aggressive'

The declassified document released by the justice department said that one agent told key terror suspect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that "we're going to kill your children" if there were further attacks on the US.

Ahead of the document's release, CIA Director Leon Panetta wrote on the agency's website that the report was "in many ways an old story" and that he would make "no judgments on the accuracy of the report or the various views expressed about it".

But he said it was clear that the CIA had "obtained intelligence from high-value detainees when inside information on al-Qaeda was in short supply".

Mr Panetta said the CIA was "aggressive" in seeking regular legal advice from the department of justice on its techniques.

He said his primary concern was "to stand up for those officers who did what their country asked and who followed the legal guidance they were given. That is the president's position, too."

But Mr Panetta also said: "This agency made no excuses for behaviour, however rare, that went beyond the formal guidelines on counter-terrorism."

The BBC's Kevin Connolly in Washington says that for President Obama the issue of how prisoners were treated in the early years of the Bush administration simply will not go away.

The left of the Democratic Party wants to investigate, expose and prosecute any wrongdoing.

But our correspondent says that would be divisive and would leave the Democrats vulnerable to accusations that they are soft on national security as next year's mid-term elections approach.
 
The declassified document released by the justice department said that one agent told key terror suspect Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that "we're going to kill your children" if there were further attacks on the US.
Not poor Khalid Sheikh Mohammad! :cry:
 
Looks like the prosecutor is a no nonsense sort of guy:

Former colleagues said the deputy U.S. attorney is known for seeking maximum sentences, shunning plea bargains and avoiding the spotlight. Four friends said they could not recall him losing a case in more than 30 years as a prosecutor, almost all of it spent fighting organized crime and gang violence in Connecticut.

. . .

"John is a dedicated prosecutor who sees things in absolute terms," said H. James Pickerstein, a former chief assistant U.S. attorney who hired Durham in the Connecticut office in the 1980s before he retired to become a defense lawyer. Pickerstein said Durham relied on a "good versus evil" vision of the world while overseeing the probe of former governor John G. Rowland.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/02/AR2008010203598.html?hpid=topnews
 
If Obama cant even release or declassify any torture memos, legal documentation you can forget about any results.

Stop wasting time on this and turn your sights on the no strings, no accountability Bail out done by the Bush administration.
 
Yeah nothing will likely come of it, but its good to serve reminders of what the freedom-loving American governments are really like
 
Almost nobody has been pushing harder to ignore the rule of law than the Washington Post editorial board. I'm surprised they were so restrained as to use "left-leaning."

Speaking of the Washington Post editorial board:

Following the Torture Trail
As another report details abusive interrogations, the government faces tough choices on possible prosecutions.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

"AN OLD STORY," CIA Director Leon Panetta said yesterday upon the release of a report by the agency's inspector general on the interrogation of terrorist suspects. Old, perhaps -- the report was completed in 2004 -- but nonetheless revolting.

The line between authorized interrogation techniques and those that were not approved seems capricious. Which is worse: Withholding sleep for 11 days or threatening to kill someone's children? Waterboarding or revving a power drill near a naked, hooded detainee? The first were blessed by the lawyers at the Bush Justice Department, who pronounced, incredibly, that they did not constitute torture. President Obama and Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. have said, correctly in our view, that CIA operatives who acted in good-faith reliance on that twisted advice will not be subject to criminal prosecution.

What to do, then, about conduct that was not explicitly allowed? The flip side of shielding those who followed the rules is that those who went beyond what was permitted are subject to being charged with torture. It's impossible to say, on the basis of the information made public so far, whether prosecution is warranted. In the version of the inspector general report released yesterday, enormous sections are blacked out, and a separate report by the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility has not yet been released. But Mr. Holder's move to have a special prosecutor conduct a preliminary criminal review appears justified. His choice, John Durham, a career Justice Department prosecutor from Connecticut, has already been investigating the related matter of the destruction of videotapes of the interrogations.

Still, there are aspects of using the criminal law in this unfortunate circumstance that give us pause. For one, the conduct at issue appears already to have been referred to the Justice Department -- the Bush Justice Department -- and prosecution was declined. There is something unsettling about telling operatives that they are off the hook, only to have that stance change with a new administration. For another, the report underscores what little appetite the CIA had for getting back into the business of ugly interrogation (it had been so burned that it changed the term, at one point, to "human resource exploitation"); the agency was clamoring constantly for guidance about what it should and should not do.

Most tellingly, the report shows how clearly those involved in the interrogations foresaw the moment when, having been pressured by higher-ups to elicit information that high-value detainees were thought to be withholding, they would find themselves called to account for their actions.

The real culprits in this sordid story are those higher-ups, starting with former president George W. Bush and former vice president Richard B. Cheney, who led America down the degrading path of state-sanctioned torture and left the next administration to cope with the fallout.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../08/24/AR2009082402629.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

While understandably not gun-ho about the investigation given their past positions, they are certainly not against it and even put the blame squarely on Bush and Cheney.
 
They never will be prosecuted as such, but Bush and Cheney are war criminals.
 
Speaking of the Washington Post editorial board:

While understandably not gun-ho about the investigation given their past positions, they are certainly not against it and even put the blame squarely on Bush and Cheney.

Good for them! Credit where credit's due.

Cleo
 
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