Hostages found dead.

[CaptainF]

Whatever, speaking here is hopeless. People are hopeless. Despair has set in.

People are hopeless. Why bother? Such a lachrymose bunch those homo sapiens.

 

[CurtSibling]

In all sincerety, we do not do this to our prisoners. Their are cases of Iraqis doing this to their prisoners, but the US hasn't done this. It certainly isn't policy as it is with these people.

You do torture them, however.

I see no moral difference between the USA and the insurgents.

Your side would do the same if the roles were reversed.

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[usarmy18]

You do torture them, however.

I see no moral difference between the USA and the insurgents.

Your side would do the same if the roles were reversed.

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From some reports I've read and whats coming down the military pipeline, the two PFC's in question were captured alive, tortured, had their genitals cut off and stuffed in their mouths, then had their eyes gouged out while still alive, and finally were beheaded. The bodies are apparently so mutilated that they're having to have the FBI do a DNA test on them to be sure they are the right men.

No matter what you say, we don't do this kind of crap to Iraqi's or other militants we capture. There is a big moral difference between us and the insurgents and if you fail to see that then I'm sorry for you.

 

[Tulkas12]

You do torture them, however.

I see no moral difference between the USA and the insurgents.

Your side would do the same if the roles were reversed.

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Curt, honestly your hatred of everything "not you" is so freaking sickening it defies belief.

 

[Tulkas12]

I'm American. Hence "we".

kk

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[Tulkas12]

Because the soldiers were tortured and mutilated before getting killed. That always seems to upset people more then other military deaths. It was the same with the Mogadishu incident over 10 years ago. People want to believe that there is a certain amount of standards for warfare. Torture, mutilation, and desicration of bodies show otherwise.

Yea, well your opinion is one of may useless opinions isn't it (including mine).

 

[Tulkas12]

Two soldiers were killed, oh goody, they died so they wouldn't be captured. You know this how?

The assumption, and its hardly off-base, that they would have used them as propaganda tools if they could have.

 

[Azash]

Curt, honestly your hatred of everything "not you" is so freaking sickening it defies belief.

Or perhaps his hatred of things you is sickening to someone with a mindset like yours.

 

[CurtSibling]

Curt, honestly your hatred of everything "not you" is so freaking sickening it defies belief.

My distaste is soley aimed at double talk and injustice.

Like when the USA pretends to have moral superiority...
...Then tortures people, and has a concentration camp in Cuba.

If you want something so 'sickening it defies belief' then look at your own actions.

I don't want to hear the pathetic justifications either, I have heard them all.

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[Azash]

The assumption, and its hardly off-base, that they would have used them as propaganda tools if they could have.

Please post a link in the OP, or change it to "So I believe they have.." lest I report you.

 

[Tulkas12]

Please post a link in the OP, or change it to "So I believe they have.." lest I report you.

WTH? My topic has nothing to do with the factual nature of my theory. I even ask what ppl suppose happened. . .

report me.... fag

 

[Tulkas12]

My distaste is soley aimed at double talk and injustice.

Like when the USA pretends to have moral superiority...
...Then tortures people, and has a concentration camp in Cuba.

If you want something so 'sickening it defies belief' then look at your own actions.

I don't want to hear the pathetic justifications either, I have heard them all.

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I wouldn't justify anything to a hateful person as yourself. Concentration camp. . . as if.

 

[Azash]

Hey, no problem. And did you know that using homophobic insults is not as effectful as you would wish it be?

 

[Tulkas12]

Hey, no problem. And did you know that using homophobic insults is not as effectful as you would wish it be?

Could care less. . .FAG

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[CurtSibling]

From some reports I've read and whats coming down the military pipeline, the two PFC's in question were captured alive, tortured, had their genitals cut off and stuffed in their mouths, then had their eyes gouged out while still alive, and finally were beheaded. The bodies are apparently so mutilated that they're having to have the FBI do a DNA test on them to be sure they are the right men.

Am I meant to apologise or something?
These insurgents are animals sure enough, and read my first lines in my first post.

What about when the Allies display dead bodies of jihadic leaders for all to see?
Do you really think these medieval maniacs are not angered by that?

It is deranged to think they won't react to that...

We are playing hardball, and so are they.

When you invaded this land, you knew the natives were not into a gentleman's war.

So you had best not be surprised at what becomes of prisoners. When you mow down their
civilians, when you blast homes of civilians or their idolised religious structures, you
are going to inspire this kind of brutality...And why are you pretending this kind of
horror is somthing new? They have been beheading capites for three years now.

Get with the program.

When you build human pyramids, and clear marines of murder when they mow down children,
don't expect these primitives to go along with what justifications you offer yourself.

It is hideous to see what is done to those two young men, but they knew the game they were playing.

No matter what you say, we don't do this kind of crap to Iraqi's or other militants we capture. There is a big moral difference between us and the insurgents and if you fail to see that then I'm sorry for you.

You only think that because that is what you wish to believe.

Soldiers are very capable of brutality, morals don't come into it.

And no matter what hogwash you offer me, that is the facts.

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[CurtSibling]

I wouldn't justify anything to a hateful person as yourself. Concentration camp. . . as if.

Go on, kid.

Get that wool pulled over your own eyes...
Next propaganda bulletin coming up!

PS
I don't actually value your meaningless opinions anyway.

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[usarmy18]

You only think that because that is what you wish to believe.

I'm not sure you realize this but the same could be said of damn near anything you post. You believe what you want to believe and I believe what I want to believe. There is nothing that will change that. You can think I'm some kind of brainwashed idiot and I can think you're a loon.

 

[Tulkas12]

Am I meant to apologise or something?
These insurgents are animals sure enough, and read my first lines in my first post.

What about when the Allies display dead bodies of jihadic leaders for all to see?
Do you really think these medieval maniacs are not angered by that?

It is deranged to think they won't react to that...

We are playing hardball, and so are they.

When you invaded this land, you knew the natives were not into a gentleman's war.

So you had best not be surprised at what becomes of prisoners. When you mow down their
civilians, when you blast homes of civilians or their idolised religious structures, you
are going to inspire this kind of brutality...And why are you pretending this kind of
horror is somthing new? They have been beheading capites for three years now.

Get with the program.

When you build human pyramids, and clear marines of murder when they mow down children,
don't expect these primitives to go along with what justifications you offer yourself.

It is hideous to see what is done to those two young men, but they knew the game they were playing.



You only think that because that is what you wish to believe.

Soldiers are very capable of brutality, morals don't come into it.

And no matter what hogwash you offer me, that is the facts.

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The facts you choose to believe you mean. Goes both ways. Yea, I just wish we'd really fight fire with fre, if you think that these little horrors are all we're capable of. . . hah. . .

Unfortunately we are trying ot be nice, and for good reason, so I geuss until the press is shut down after the next killing of American civilians you are right in that all we can do is kill a few innocents while trying to be nice. When the press is gone we will be quite nasty I suppose.

This all assumes your moral relativism is right of course.

 

[Tulkas12]

I'm not sure you realize this but the same could be said of damn near anything you post. You believe what you want to believe and I believe what I want to believe. There is nothing that will change that. You can think I'm some kind of brainwashed idiot and I can think you're a loon.

He is one of the worst of the hypocrits here. I would assume your new here?

 

[CurtSibling]

I'm not sure you realize this but the same could be said of damn near anything you post. You believe what you want to believe and I believe what I want to believe. There is nothing that will change that. You can think I'm some kind of brainwashed idiot and I can think you're a loon.

Think what you want, barmy army.

But the reality is still out there, no matter what your CNN and so-called 'military sources' tell you.

And the reality is brutal, on both sides.

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