punkbass2000
Des An artiste
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Nope, I got this off NPR.
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Yep. It happened in Tejas.My point was that when you start letting masses of people come over your borders unchecked, and you mistreat them (in this case, low wages, etc.) or there is no assimilation, it's only a matter of time until they begin to act effectively as an independent force. Read: social turmoil.
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It seems that you are saying indirectly and not intended to me as saying or committing a non-sequitur comment.punky said:I would think it would be fairly difficult to determine the average income of an illegal workforce accurately, though I await humility.
Did you not assert that,from your own point of view,say that without any fact of assuming it is difficult to know what is the average income of illegal immigrants accurately...
...without supplying any claims of fact or observations?
On oil, I agree with Tank Guy. I think hydrogen fuel cells have the best potential to actually replace fossil fuels entirely.
Which i said it is so but you retort by saying that i have committed an non-sequitur fallacy and not you.Yes, and it is a fact that that is my opinion.
How can an opinion be something evidential when an opinion is an assertion of supposing a belief without fact?My say so, I believe, is evidence enough of my opinion.
On illegal immigration, and this "willing worker / willing employee" stuff, I have just one thing to say to you: Visigoths, the Danubian borders, 376 AD -> Adrianople. Google it.
The solution to all three is the same: America, curb your appetites.
And why is that we are an all-encompassing consumers?-It is because the supplies from other places outside United States(whether it be illegal drugs,oil,and human beings[illegals immigrants]) are cheap for our fatty wallets!Get real.
The core of the so-called American derivation of the Western culture is consumerism. Unlimited and all-encompassing consumerism.
It's good you know that, but I don't see a way to do anything about it.
And why is that we are an all-encompassing consumers?-It is because the supplies from other places outside United States(whether it be illegal drugs,oil,and human beings[illegals immigrants]) are cheap for our fatty wallets!![]()
I am not asking why, I just say that American consumerism is extreme even for other Westerners.
And now they are coming to our country in great numbers. Few of their children know English. They bring in much of their own reading from their homeland and print newspapers in their own language. In some parts of our state, ads, street signs, and even some legal documents are in their own language and allowed in courts.
What are you suggesting?That this is somewhat based from your own personal experiences and the people around you or are you directly saying in an overall objective mannner?In the end, it will take a lot to make Americans realize that their current "American dream" type lifestyles are not really sustainable in the long term.